A CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT
FOR THE SOUL IS IGNITED

A Civil Rights Movement for the Soul, freeing humanity at last from the oppression of its belief in a violent, angry, and vindictive God, has been re-energized by The Global Conversation, with nearly 100 people saying ‘yes’ to the invitation placed in this space just four days ago.

The purpose of the movement, which is the prime mission of a global community known as Humanity’s Team, is to release our species from a dogma that creates separation and competition, replacing it with unity and compassion, and to put Spiritual Activists on the ground in cities, towns, and villages around the world, challenging us to examine our old spiritual beliefs and ask, honestly: Are these doctrines working?

The end of our Old Cultural Story and the writing of a new one based on the spiritual truth of who we are and what is really so about Life has, of course, been spoken of, and yearned for, for thousands of years. But now humanity has the tools with which to finally make this dream come true.

First, it has answers now to life’s most critical question. And second, it has a way to get those answers to millions of people rapidly.

Life’s most critical question is: How is it possible for 6.9 billion people to all want the same thing—survival, safety, security, peace, prosperity, opportunity, happiness, and love—and to be unable to produce it, even after thousands of years of trying?

The answer is that we have been going after the wrong thing. This idea is fully explained in the book The Storm Before the Calm.

In addition, the true coming of age of global instant communication is now making it possible to send that information to multi-millions virtually overnight. And that is what the Civil Rights Movement for the Soul is all about.

Within days of it being discussed here December 5th, nearly 100 people signed on to join the Movement, and one of them — a man named Eric Silver — said “Yes, with a condition: A simple, practical blueprint for achieving this. For example, a distillation of the principles and premises of ‘Conversations with God’ and other enlightened materials into a one or two page, incorruptible, guide to life and living that even a child could understand and apply intuitively. (And don’t say it can’t be condensed down to that, because it can.) When heeded, its truth will be indisputably evident through the lifestyles of those who follow it.”

Well, Eric, it just so happens that just such a statement has been given. I, too, have been asking for such a summary — a quick read that could say all that needs to be said and open the door for further exploration and discussion by people around the world. And I was given, a while ago, a simple statement that fills your request perfectly, reducing 3,000 pages of CWG dialogue to 1,000 words.

Eric also wrote about the changes in human behavior that such a single summary could produce. In the Comments section below he asked: “Can such change occur without a massive ‘environmental’ (physical, mental, and spiritual) calamity to motivate it? At no point in human history have people gotten together and said, ‘Gee, we are doing this Life/Living thing wrong; let’s all fix it,’ unless some severe external/internal pressure forced them to do so. Perhaps this will be the first instance?”

Yes, I believe so, Eric. This Civil Rights Movement for the Soul can be the first time. So here is that summary statement you were looking for Eric…

Here, in 1,000 words, is all that the human race needs to know in order to live the life for which it has yearned and which, despite trying for thousands of years, it has yet to produce. Carry these messages to your world:

God talks to everyone, all the time. The question is not: To whom does God talk? The question is: Who listens?

We are all One. All things are One Thing. There is only One Thing, and all things are part of the One Thing There Is.

There’s enough. It is not necessary to compete for, much less fight over, the resources you have been given. Simply learn to share.

There’s nothing you have to do. There is much you will do, but nothing you are required to do. God wants nothing, needs nothing, demands nothing, and commands nothing.

There are Three Basic Principles of Life: Functionality, Adaptability, and Sustainability. Thus, there is no such thing as Right and Wrong, there is only What Works and What Does Not Work, given what it is you are trying to do. What you are trying to do and what you will do shall determine who you are and how you evolve as a species in the cosmic community of sentient beings.

Love is all there is.

You are the creator of your own reality, using the Three Tools of Creation: Thought, Word, and Action.

Your life has nothing to do with you. It is about everyone whose life you touch, and how you touch it.

You are not your body, you are not your mind, and you are not your soul. You are the unique combination of all three, which comprises the Totality Of You. You are an individuation of Divinity; an expression of God on earth.

The purpose of your life is to recreate yourself anew in the next grandest version of the greatest vision ever you held about Who You Are.

There’s no such thing as Right and Wrong. There is only What Works and What Does Not Work, given what it is you are trying to do.

There is also no such place as hell, and eternal damnation does not exist. There is no such thing as Space and Time, there is only Here and Now. Death does not exist. What you call “death” is merely a process of Re-Identification. There are no victims and no villains, and no one does anything inappropriate, given their model of the world.  

The moment you declare anything, everything unlike it will come into the space. This is The Law of Opposites, which produces a Contextual Field within which that which you wish to express may be experienced.

There is no such thing as Absolute Truth. All truth is subjective. Within this framework there are five levels of truth telling: Tell your truth to yourself about yourself; Tell your truth to yourself about another; Tell your truth about yourself to another; Tell your truth about another to another; Tell your truth to everyone about everything.

The human race has created a precise set of illusions. The Ten Illusions of Humans are: Need Exists, Failure Exists, Disunity Exists, Insufficiency Exists, Requirement Exists, Judgment Exists, Condemnation Exists, Conditionality Exists, Superiority Exists, Ignorance Exists. These illusions are meant to serve humanity, but it must learn how to use them.

The Three Core Concepts of Holistic Living are Honesty, Awareness, and Responsibility. Live according to these precepts and self-anger will disappear from your life.

Life functions within a Be-Do-Have paradigm. Most people have this backward, imagining that first one must “have” things in order to “do” things, thus to “be” what they wish to be. Reversing this process is the fastest way to experience mastery in living.

There are Three Levels of Awareness: Hope, Faith, and Knowing. Spiritual mastery is about living from the third level.

There are Five Fallacies about God that create crisis, violence, killing and war. First, the idea that God needs something. Second, the idea that God can fail to get what He needs. Third, the idea that God has separated you from Him because you have not given Him what He needs. Fourth, the idea that God still needs what He needs so badly that God now requires you, from your separated position, to give it to Him. Fifth, the idea that God will destroy you if you do not meet His requirements.

There are also Five Fallacies About Life that likewise create crisis, violence, killing and war. First, the idea that human beings are separate from each other. Second, the idea that there is not enough of what human beings need to be happy. Third, the idea that in order to get the stuff of which there is not enough, human beings must compete with each other. Fourth, the idea that some human beings are better than other human beings. Fifth, the idea that it is appropriate for human beings to resolve severe differences created by all the other fallacies by killing each other.

You think you are being terrorized by other people, but in truth you are being terrorized by your beliefs. Your experience of yourself and your world will shift dramatically if you adopt, collectively, the Five Steps to Peace:

Permit yourself to acknowledge that some of your old beliefs about God and about Life are no longer working.

Explore the possibility that there is something you do not fully understand about God and about Life, the understanding of which would change everything.

Announce that you are willing for new understandings of God and Life to now be brought forth, understandings that could produce a new way of life on this planet.

Courageously examine these new understandings and, if they align with your personal inner truth and knowing, enlarge your belief system to include them.

Express your life as a demonstration of your highest beliefs, rather than as a denial of them.

These 1,000 words, embraced and acted on, could change the world in a single generation.

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(From the forthcoming book WHAT GOD SAID: The Words of a Spiritual Revolution. Now, you are invited to take a step with us. Help create a New Cultural Story for our species, based on the message above. Answer the following question: Who will join Humanity’s Team? Place your answer in the Comment section below. But be careful. Because if your answer is yes, you’re going to be asked to take part in the biggest civil rights movement in the history of humanity. A Civil Rights Movement for the Soul. That is, Neale Donald Walsch and Humanity’s Team will get in touch with you personally and invite you to become involved in what could produce a spiritual renewal on this planet the likes of which we could only have dreamt of until now. The Moment of Our Tomorrow has arrived. And nothing, not all the armies of the world, can stop an idea whose time has come.)

Comments

67 responses to “A CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT
FOR THE SOUL IS IGNITED”

  1. Marta Elena Ortiz Garcia Avatar
    Marta Elena Ortiz Garcia

    I will, and will work for more people to join it

  2. Marta Elena Ortiz Garcia Avatar
    Marta Elena Ortiz Garcia

    I will

  3. Nicole DeNosky Avatar
    Nicole DeNosky

    Thank you! I’m ready for our planet to experience a spiritual renewal!

  4. Laura Pringle Avatar
    Laura Pringle

    I will! I’ve been trying to make an impact with my recently-published book, Meanderings of a Wayward Spirit, putting my “unacceptable” traits out there and asking for acceptance. Trying to foster compassion and forgiveness. But it’s message is too obtuse, apparently. Not much feedback. And we need to reach people NOW. I will help get info out there. I love the ideas you present to us ! They feel so right in my heart!

    But I also see many Christians who are VERY happy with their religion, and see no need to change their beliefs. Maybe they will just go back to God in the rapture and save us all the converting;) ?

  5. Vashti Boochay Avatar
    Vashti Boochay

    I will! I have shared this site and The Storm before the Calm with others, and I will continue to have the conversation each day, in any way I can. I am ready for this offering of love.

  6. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    I cannot see the difference between CWG and ACIM.

    Lol, Inger Lise.

  7. ALDA INES Avatar
    ALDA INES

    Quem vai se juntar Equipe da Humanidade? Nossos eus superiores, que são os nossos mestres a nós guiar, o nosso lada divino iluminado que está pronto para a reconectar, através da grade cristalina.

  8. Marti Avatar
    Marti

    I am a living example of dismantling my own beliefs that no longer serve or work. I am ready and willing to share my experiences and continue being the example.
    I always ask the questions that lead to deeper conversations. And I am continuing to go deeper, because there is no other way.

  9. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Translate if you please.

    Both channeling God(or, as it is told of old, of all is God). The truth is within us.
    That`s why of to be here. It is the learning about everything.

  10. Linda Mackos Avatar
    Linda Mackos

    Yes. I am in, I am,

  11. Linda Mackos Avatar
    Linda Mackos

    yes, I am in, I am

  12. Susan Knights Avatar
    Susan Knights

    Yes

  13. Atique Mujawar Avatar
    Atique Mujawar

    Yes. I will join humanity’s Team.

  14. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    NO!

    I have tried and failed. Instead of offering these statements as indisputable truth, I presented them as controversial statements in quiz format, and asked participants to mark them as true or false in their opinion. I got a false on most questions from most people. I’m willing to bet most people who present these statements to friends and family in their life in this way will receive similar results on most statement from most people.

    So then the question becomes, what now? I will not force my opinions on others, or manipulate them, subliminally or otherwise, into changing their beliefs. That would not be growth, merely obedience or hypontism.

    Everyone’s beliefs are different, so a voluntary educational program on spiritual growth will understandably popular for the people who already agree with most or all of these statements, and avoided by almost everyone else. Of the new rookie believers, a small percentage will alter a small percentage of their beliefs in the long term, even if a large percentage understand it. Old habits die hard. Further, in a near dead ecomony, classes will need to be free, or by donation, etc, to attract rookies. Where will funding come from?

    Also, and certainly not lastly, is language barriers. Every country has people from every other country, many who wish to stay yet continue speaking their native tounge. Reaching a multilingual target audience means a UN general assembly style presentation, with each presenter being a part of the audience, each with a translator. If everything is presented as text, a translation program can convert, but you’d be surprised how much is lost or becomes confusing when you’re trying to convert to a language that has no word, or similar word, to what you’re trying to say. This frequently surprises me in my work.

    Now while I could rather easily provide a dozen or more other hurdles, equally as hard to overcome, my concerns that. humanity’s Team will likely be met with aggressive, violent reactions from fundamentalists, especially if CwGers attempt to force beliefs on them, has not in any way been addressed by anyone. I gotta say, I’m not going out my door looking for an argument, especially with so many carrying some form of potentially deadly weapon.

    My answer is still NO.

  15. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    Still no, no surprise there, but thank you for more information! I am very happy with my God thank you very much. This concept without your god may be more appealing if you are wishing to reach the masses: people uniting together to fight for greater good, without CWG involved. And there is a huge difference between right and wrong, such as taking the freewill of another away. Maybe you could try explaining your concept of this to victims of sexual abuse, sadistic behaviour etc. The consequences of such, and causing the suffering of another is called prison, where many belong, do you wish to free all prisoners and have them living with you?. Hell is one big prison, and a lot of faith is based on this, and is what allows victims to function and move on – knowing justice and karma will prevail. This part of the CWG concept, and that your god stated that children are sexual beings sickens me to my stomach, and the thought of people believing this makes for a dangerous society, and where people think they have the freewill to do whatever they want is a society not fit for children or animals to be a part of.

  16. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Kristen,
    I can see you’re not much of a visionary for thinking 4th dimensionally. Neale’s dream, presented through CwG, is generations, maybe centuries, ahead of it’s time. I’ve had visions of this world, and none of the issues you have brought up exist. It’s not nirvana, or heaven, and it’s not better, easier, or peaceful. Just different.

    There are no prisons, but some people are still segregated against their will, like incarceration. There is still sexual abuse and sadistic behaviour, and a lot more, but participants treat it more like a role playing game than as though it were real. Many people enjoy observing these games as a form of entertainment.

    As for sexually active children, the lines of age appropriateness become blurry, so even though what makes you sick is never encouraged or forced on kids, when their biological clock starts ticking they are not told to wait, or suppress their natural feelings. I was instructed to supress on a regular basis growing up, and severely threatened if I disobeyed, so I obeyed, and it has taken decades to claw back some sexual confidence. I wouldn’t wish my fate on my worst enemy, if I had one.

    In this way I am a silent supporter of the CwG message, but I refuse to promote it. Neale is trying to accelerate what must be a natural process, and forcing change only produces rebellion.

    What you resist, persists. What they resist, persists. Conflict results, and cannot be silenced. I’ve had more than my share of violence, so now I’m just playing for fun.

  17. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    UM, Buzz – you cannot phase me. You know that, and you also know you live in your own fantasy world of Pala, obviously a place where no children or animals should exist! My dream world is Eden, where no wrong is permitted. Your ideal world is my idea of hell.

    Firstly – NEVER EVER DEFEND YOUR GOD TO ME. At least my God is man enough to acknowledge He, like all gods, is half evil and half good, and was prepared to listen to people like Moses. The term Israel means ‘fought God and won’. Quote your god by all means, he is the one who chooses his own words, and he is the one who chose to say children are sexual beings. And if you have reread what you posted you will note you have implied your strange world you seek is also Neales dream? Good PR – guess he isn’t about to offer you a job!. I pray my little heart out that no peodophiles have ever read that and thinks your god has given them permission to use them as such. The legal age for sex is 16, and I don’t know why any sexual topics could ever come up with anyone under the age of 14. We know little boys like their well positioned toy, and a majority of sane parents will tell them it is not OK to play with your willy around other people, and you will not do so. Subject over. I have two boys 18 & 14. And mine are not allowed girlfriends/boyfriends until 17. They know the girls crying at school at lunchtime are the ones with boyfriends. My 20yr old girl isn’t allowed to date, let alone anything else until we meet a guy smart, nice, tall and good looking enough. I’m the parent, I’m the boss, and happy at home the dogs won’t roam!! Although as a trainee nurse, she did have to change an old mans catheter! And no he didn’t enjoy it! LOL!!!!!

    Secondly – you must be the last person alive to not know that to seek, desire or engage in any form of violence, sadism or other dodgy sex is a major consequence of psychological damage and self loathing. Get help, or be like Freud & your god and try to convince people it’s normal so you don’t feel abnormal! And to want to watch anyone else in a sexual engagement is just dodgy, including any form of porn. Any sexual contact is private between two consentual adults or teens mature enough to make informed choice.

    I am very blessed to have not had any form of physical, sexual, verbal or other violence inflicted upon me, never even a smack as a child, so I cannot understand psychology as an insider, but do know that there is no way I would allow anything to affect me so much it manifested, allowing perpetrators to continue to abuse me long term, as you did!.I’ve had a lot of spiritual abuse though!

    Thirdly – this relates to a different post, but I’m having problems posting in here so will put it here. Regarding the spelling of Rachael’s name! How can I understand what your god says better than you?? Your god stated there is no such thing as constructive criticism, only negative criticism that serves no purpose. To nitpick over the spelling of someones name is pathetic. I am completely resistant to anything negative, and have worked hard to get to that point. What that means for you though, is that anything negative you fire at me will bounce off and reflect straight back to you, return to sender style. Everything created, including energy, must go somewhere, generally absorbed by victims like you, until you move on and karma takes hold and punishes the perpetrator.

    I have made vows to do no harm, cause no suffering, and create no negative unless a counter attack, defense or correction, therefore I cannot engage with you, thus encouraging your negativity. Healthy mind, healthy brain, healthy heart, healthy soul, healthy body.

    I apologise if you are offended or if you feel I have crossed the line, but you have to hear it, and hopefully listen instead of correcting my spelling so you can stop manifesting more negativity in this world. We don’t need it!

    At least now you can play by yourself for fun! LOL, assume you get it!

  18. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Very clever Kristen,
    I must admit, you almost had me. That was great, trying to antagonize me into a more deeply defensive state. The feigning of being offended about my correction of Rachael’s name was particularly effective, getting me thinking about why pedantics feel so important at the time.

    I’m used to having people project their beliefs on me, so your tirade about paedophiles and catheters and porn seemed like just another person seeking to be heard, and have their life witnessed, till I realized it’s all fake. Such an emotional charge built up in the words, as I said very convincing. So dramatic!

    (While clapping) Bravo. Fantastic performance. Well done!

  19. Judith Devlin Avatar
    Judith Devlin

    Yes! Count Me In!

  20. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    The top headline question asks “Are our present ideas working?” The answer is most absolutely YES! They are working to give us what we currently have.

    Are they working to give us what we want? NO, and they never will, even if we change our ideas about how to get what we say we want. Our species exists in a default state of dissatisfaction, which is the foundation of hope. We hope for what we don’t have.

    Gratitude (wanting what we have) is the polar opposite of this, and unconditional gratitude has been suggested as a remedy for depression, yet what does a person so grateful they want nothing live for, look forward to, dream about.

    Neither of these scenarios sounds desirable.

  21. Erin/IAm Avatar
    Erin/IAm

    O.K. The party is started…Let’s dance!:)

    Nice summary, btw.

  22. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Pussycats, luv ye.
    It is a pleasure of to listen about the conversations between Buzz`s and Kristens. I am in awe how it is possible of to figure out the things of the Mind is cabable of to create by Mankind.
    And Kristen seems to be fighting a war of some sorts(at least it is how “I AM” interpreting the english language). But agree in of it is stages of the learning, especially as to have seen a documentary from Congo(in Africa), how the young africans dressed in the army uniforms armed with the most modern weapons killing others of the same kind(torturing the civilians, included the children) with a cruelty which surpasses understanding.
    It is still the primitive evolutionary tribes around.
    The same in Syria as well, and it is called civilization.

    It is “to boil” these days in Europe as well, so one might wonders “how deeply” on the surface nowadays attitude among nations will be, when it comes to the spiritual advancement after all….But when looking ABOVE all of these things, is it told to be a new earth anyway. It is Hope, and it is Faith.
    Peace Prizes Okay. BUT, after all “up” until now(after two world-wars), Europe have managed in keeping the Peace approximately 67 years of time(not counting Hungary, Bosnia or Serbia, etc.etc. in between, but the countries was`nt members of the E.U. back then).
    Norway is still not a member, but the politicans are to try of forcing us into a member-ship. And the Nobel-Commitee will be “the club” number one in of doing it behind our backs.

    The politicans all over the world seems of to have their own agenda.
    Please, anybody of to feel as Victims? It is a world-revolution on its way folks. Nothing or nobody can harm us.

    The evolution is still a far-stretched battle when to exists “in time.”

  23. LUCILIA Avatar
    LUCILIA

    Willingness! Yes, I am willing to become involved in what could produce a spiritual renewal on this planet.

  24. Sharon White Avatar
    Sharon White

    I will. My time has come, my calling has come and I’m ready.

  25. Neale Donald Walsch Avatar
    Neale Donald Walsch

    A RESPONSE FROM NEALE DONALD WALSCH…

    Buzz has generated a little “buzz” in this Comment String, and I am happy for that, because he is bringing up some very important things. For instance, he wrote, above…

    “…I am a silent supporter of the CwG message, but I refuse to promote it. Neale is trying to accelerate what must be a natural process, and forcing change only produces rebellion.

    What you resist, persists. What they resist, persists. Conflict results, and cannot be silenced. I’ve had more than my share of violence, so now I’m just playing for fun.”

    My reaction: The Civil Rights Movement for the Soul is not about “forcing” change. It is about “generating” change, by placing before humanity a set of ideas, the desirability of which is so self-evident that those ideas by their own energy move to the fore of humanity’s thinking and embracing. It has been said that all the armies in the world cannot stop an idea whose time has come.

    Buzz made the observation in a comment higher in this string that he took a True or False survey of some people, using the statements of the 25 Core Messages of CWG, and got a “False” answer to most statements from most people. From this he deduces that most people will “resist” these new notions, and because of our resistance to their old ideas, we will have, essentially, a “stand off” — like two magnets turned to face each other with reverse polarity, thus pushing away from each other.

    Buzz, you would be right if the Civil Rights Movement was resisting old ideas. Because, as you correctly point out, “What you resist, persists.” But our intention in the Movement is NOT to RESIST present or ancient ideas about God and about Life and about each other, but to EXPAND them.

    We seek to add TO them, not to resist them. I have made the statement many times that our present and ancient beliefs and understandings are not “wrong,” they are simply “incomplete.” We are as children who have learned to add and subtract — and who now think that this is all there is to mathematics.

    When told about multiplication and long division, our eyes open wide. Oh, my…you mean I can get to the solution THIS way…? This much shorter, easier way??? Oh, my!

    And THAT is what the New Spirituality is all about. It is about how to get to where we say we want to go as a civilization, and do so in a way that is shorter and easier! It is the answer to the question: How is it possible for 7 billion people to all want the same thing and be unable to get it???

    Like Martin Luther King Jr.’s Civil Rights Movement for blacks, and Harvey Milk’s Civil Rights Movement for gays, and Gloria Steinem’s Civil Rights Movement for women, the Civil Rights Movement for the Soul — the last great civil rights movement of humanity — will produce outcomes that will serve all of human civilization, advancing it on its evolutionary path. And, as has been the case with Gloria, this Movement does not have to produce violence, or the death of one of its leaders.

    Regarding Buzz’s observation about Earth’s many foreign languages…Conversations with God had no problem becoming a worldwide phenomenon, with the books translated into 37 languages (and growing). I don’t have any doubt about the ability of these ideas to spread to peoples of all the world, in all the world’s languages.

    As to how many generations Buzz believes it will take for this Movement to produce results, I find myself wanting to paraphrase the late American President John F. Kennedy: All this will not happen within the first 100 days. Nor within the first 1,000 days. Not even, perhaps, in our lifetime. But let us begin.

  26. Eric Silver Avatar
    Eric Silver

    Neale, what a nice surprise! Thank you for answering my question. I asked because… I knew you had an answer waiting. 😀

    Your Summary Statement is great because it not only covers all the bases but can also be blended into a person’s, organization’s or society’s existing conceptual framework as readily as seasoning can be blended into cake batter – enhancing the existing flavor and facilitating transformation into something new and better.

    It can be implemented openly where minds are open and the message is wanted and expected; or tacitly where minds are closed and/or the message is not expected. Sometimes it will be offered at face value; sometimes the positive end result will be delivered first and the message “discovered,” as the cause, by the recipients.

    It is probably obvious by my remarks and questions that I am among those people seeking to use newly (and finally) available tools to help reform the world (back) into what god originally intended, as well as open the door to the full depth and breadth of our limitless individual and collective potentials. The challenge has always been how to integrate messages such as yours into existing mindsets without them being rejected, distorted, corrupted or forgotten. Thankfully, as you stated, we now have the tools to do that.

    This is one movement I am delighted to be a part of. 😀

    Eric Silver

  27. Stefania Avatar
    Stefania

    You know what? YES, I will join. 🙂
    Let’s do this!

  28. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    ” Buzz has generated a little “buzz” in this Comment String,…”

    Thank you. This is my purpose. I exist to liven the party with controversy.

    Neale has said “… It is about “generating” change,…” and ” I have made the statement many times that our present and ancient beliefs and understandings are not “wrong,” they are simply “incomplete.” ”

    The people I have spoken to have declared they believe that you believe they are wrong, and will resist accepting their truth, and so they declare they will resist change. In a time when there are so many aspects of our reality changing, people cling more tightly to their deepest beliefs like a child to the fluffy toy it sleeps with, and trusts implicitly.

    It is not as important to them that you say they are not wrong, and in a world of words this is not about actions speaking louder than words. What matters to them, and what mattered to me decades ago, is that I was right and they were wrong. I wanted to agree with CwG before I read it, knowing it was better than any mainstream religion. I don’t feel this way now, but you know people love to be right, whatever they believe. The desirability is not so self evident to them. Kristen is case in point, vehemently stating she is happy with her God. She is normal, and we are different.

    Neale has said many times that ” It has been said that all the armies in the world cannot stop an idea whose time has come,” and this is true. I am not suggesting that Neale’s message can be stopped. It has been irreversibly added to the growing list of options people may choose to believe.

    Neale says, and elaborates on ” Buzz, you would be right if the Civil Rights Movement was resisting old ideas,” yet in my experience of understanding CwG, I find myself resisting many very highly valued and respected aspects of many major religions, and of those, many aspects are flatly rejected as totally wrong in their entirety. Admittedly, many of these rejections are ideas that have been bastardised and rewritten from original scripture to suit whatever that religion wants to preach, but the believers refuse to accept this for the same reason Neale promotes CwG: They say they are changing it to “what works” in our new culture, an improvement on ancient ways.

    These principles are the chief tenet of these religions, and among the most repeated phrases and concepts of scriptural reading, both inside their house of God and at home/work/etc. These people have been brainwashed, and are brainwashing the next generation as an act of obedience to the instructions from their God.

    Perhaps Mewabe could go on another tirade about how poorly many women are treated in many parts of the world. Their movement has been least effective of all partly because there has never been a war, and no one famous, like a leader, has been martyred for the cause. Many gays, and now transsexuals, refuse to exit their closet as theywatch the world treating their counterparts. As for blacks, African-Americans are still somewhat segregated, although their movement was perhaps the most effective in history. Despite this, the map of the US at the end of this year’s election was almost perfectly mirrored by which states poorly treated blacks before and just after the Civil War. Coincidence? I think not.

    Native Americans, also grouped with “blacks”, and natives of every continent, are among the worst treated by settlers, who label them as primitive. The civil rights movements are all ongoing causes, after decades or centuries of work, and Neale’s asking people to start a new one. Just as the whites resisted the push for civil rights by the blacks, powerful men and their belief in a male God continue to suppress women everywhere, and gays are relying on modern science to prove sexual orientation can be genetically predisposed, Neale’s movement is stuck spinning it’s wheels on logical sensibilities, a field of science that freely admits it can’t prove it’s theories, and clever catch phrases.

    The Civil Rights Movement for the Soul, also known as the Mass Spiritual Awakening, is a revolving door in our cultural history. Countless leaders have declared their message could change everything, and the major religions prevail. You may engage them again if you wish, but I only ask that you, all of you, remain detached from achieving specific results, for their influences stretch further than most can imagine. Play the whole civil rights game with a sense of humour, if you enjoy taking risks and confronting people about that which they value most, and will defend to the death, as I could be said to have done here with you (by people who don’t understand what I’m doing).

    Caution! Consider extremely hazardous.
    You may begin at your discretion. Go with God.
    I wish for each and every one of you a very blissed and blessed experience of this attempt to change the world, while I watch.

    HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!

  29. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Don’t ever accept opinions from others that tell you that you can’t be, do or have something you want. Don’t let me or anyone affect your optimism or self confidence.

    ” Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

    It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, ‘Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?’ Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you.

    We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.” 

    ― Marianne Williamson, 
    A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of “A Course in Miracles”

    My friends,
    I am a contradiction. In order to agree with me, you must disagree with me.
    Smile! I am not a threat to you, unless you say I am.

  30. *lisa* Avatar
    *lisa*

    I’ve read the concise 1,000 words several times over now. Not too far off the mark from where I feel I am most of the time. However, I am no salesperson. I don’t like it when employees follow me around in the store asking if I need assistance or telling me what the deals are. In fact, I run away from them. I am repelled by what they are trying to force upon me.

    So as Neale said in his last lines here, I will continue to ‘Express my life as a demonstration of my highest beliefs’. Only I choose a more subtle approach. Especially because of my unique position to meet many fellow souls in a moment of need or crisis, everyday. Perhaps the synchronisity of our interaction will bring them just what they need at the right time… in many cases I know that it has.

    In any case, please don’t contact me inviting me to become a spiritual activist. In my own special way, I already am one and will continue on that path beside the rest of you. And Buzz, like it or not, you’re doing more than watching. You’re supporting people here and lifting up the effort with your energy as well. Imagine what the comments to these threads would be like without you in them!

  31. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    I find myself torn between the viewpoints presented here. Neale speaks of ‘expanding’ the viewpoints of those who worship fear, but they see any such expansion as outright change and indeed they do resist it. If anything the evangelical/fundamentalist movement seems to be focused on making God even smaller, as the object of worship has become a stack of papers, and not the being that the stack of papers is supposed to represent. Their tactics are brutal and consist of personal attacks on those who present ideas that might “expand” the current belief system, no matter how delicately they are offered. But I believe they must be confronted, if for no other reason than to show other people who observe these confrontations, that there is another way, another idea, another hope. I have not yet reached the point where Buzz has, but I can see how he got there and I may join him yet… I do like the idea that it’s all a game we dreamed up because eternity is just so boring. There is something about that idea that really rings a bell with me.

    Neale if you don’t mind some constructive criticism – I think the 1000 word message is still way too long and disjointed. It doesn’t flow. It doesn’t present a unified message that starts with a a proposition or preface and ends with a summary or conclusion. It’s basically a data dump. Start with an elevator pitch. Explain your point in the amount of time you have to get from the 1st floor to the 10th floor in an elevator. A short paragraph. Then expand on it in some kind of smoothly flowing, statement of objectives or ideas that doesn’t try to fit every single point from every single book that you’ve ever written into a single sheet of paper. It’s too overwhelming as it’s presented now. What it comes down to is 4 little words. Try not to over-explain them. (We Are All One).

    My 2 cents.

  32. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Thanks *lisa*,
    I like to think of myself as a full time contributor, way way behind friendly lines, assisting the recovery process of our most severely wounded. In a metaphorical sense I’m watching the war unfold at a great distance, yet supporting the troops the best way I can.

    I’m not sure if it means much to you to read this, but… YOU’RE RIGHT.
    And so returns this strange feeling within you that rewards us for being right, yet instills caution about wanting more rewards and receiving gratitude by being right, and the guilt about enjoying something we know is bad for us, like chocolate or methamphetamine.

    It’s so much easier to give in to temptation, become addicted, lose ourselves, and become old and frail, filled with regret, waiting to die alone.

    Maybe salvation lies in detachment, as in unconditional love and gratitude.

    On the other hand, people with no vices have very few virtues.

    ” My dear,
    It has been my experience that those with no vices have very few virtues.

    They just haven’t lived enough to have enough true virtues.

    For living, truly living, means encountering vices which hold you so dearly that you never leave them. And continuing to live with those vices is what develops true virtues.

    A man cannot be considered strong unless he’s been battle tested. And a person cannot have true virtues unless they’ve been tested with vices they cannot resist.This is what I know.

    Falsely yours,
    Abraham Lincoln”

  33. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Hello Pat,
    I will begin work immediately on an unofficial conversion from “data dump” to story. In the mean time, Neale included something like this at the back of one of his books, called “The Constitution For New Humans” that may interest you. I do not remember which book, but it was many years ago, roughly around the printed date of “CwG: The New Revelations”

  34. Tracey Avatar
    Tracey

    Everything written here is so true. Yes, I’m in. I’m ready to help with a Civil Rights Movement for the Soul. The time is now. There has never been a better time. It’s right, and ripe for the picking/harvest. Thank you, Neale.

  35. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    I hope this helps Pat. 🙂

    The core messages of CwG
    (unofficially remastered By Buzz Lightyear)

    God can be heard now, as this is read. God speaks to everyone, all the time. God has manifested God as you, this, and everything else, to experience God being. Everything is part of the one thing that is. Because God is everything, God neither needs nor wants anything. Therefore, there is nothing you have to do.  

    The word “God” is a pronoun, loosely interchangeable with ideas like life, love, energy, being, the universe, and the word “God” is a verb, synonymous with love, being, expression, joy, bliss, harmony, euphoria, and nirvana.  

    “You” are not your body, or your mind, or your soul, but the unique expressive combination of all 3, as an individuation and an aspect of the divine God   In order to feel divine bliss, it must be understood the human race has created many fallacies and illusions. While they can be used for our benefit, without awareness of their incomplete nature they can easily become harmful.  

    These illusions include: Need, failure, disunity, insufficiency, requirement, judgement, condemnation, conditionality, superiority, ignorance, victimization, evil, death, hell, eternal damnation, and moral righteousness. All of these illusions are variations on the greatest illusion of reality, that time and space exist, and that what we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell is real.  

    You are creating your reality, and everything you do works to define you as you recreate yourself anew in the next grandest version of the greatest vision you ever held about who you are. You create reality in 3 ways, with thoughts, words, and actions to produce results that are functional, adaptive and sustainable as expressions of honesty, awareness, and responsibility. The intention of this process is to move from hope to faith, and then to knowing.  

    When your character traits allow you to be humble enough to accept your life has nothing to do with you, and is all about those you touch, your outward behaviour will be grateful, generous, and loving. You will realise there is enough of everything for everyone to be have what they want.  

    This document is misleading, as absolute truth is impossible. All truth is subjective, so do not believe blindly. Explore the possibility that there is something you do not fully understand, the understanding of which may change everything.

  36. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    *lisa* – I’m with you! Shop assistants are stalkers, I also run and don’t spend there (and I am a great shopper!). I have a shop: the role of the shop assistant is to stay behind the counter until people ask for help. This goes for a shop in life!

    Buzz – I was serious and honest. I don’t play games, or manipulate. Kids are starving and being abused, game playing is for those who do not prioritise what is actually important. Nice white washing though, to avoid having to look in the mirror. If it works for you to manipulate the whole point, and accuse me of games, then so be it, doesn’t bother me.

    Inger – my battle days are over, I have just progressed to Chesed/Mercy on The Tree of Life. Gentleness, mercy, peace, defining worthiness etc. Yay, no more having to be a warrior like in Geburah. I noticed I was returning to being a pacifist but did not ‘click’ as to why until someone, from in here presumably, as been firing psychic attacks at me yesterday trying to bring on nausea, headaches etc, and an angel made me aware of it, and said it wasn’t my battle to have to react anymore. Every cloud has a silver lining. A year ago I would have behaved completely differently, now I hardly notice negative at all.

    War against evil is a necessity on the Tree of Life, in Geburah. One definition is “in Geburah, Severity, you have the lessons of power to learn. Being meek won’t yield success. Power ought. The outdated must be eliminated. Justice must be sought. Learning to wield power wisely in the service of the light is a lesson. Mastery of this sphere bestows upon you the title of ‘greater adept’. This is from the net, but the site has not printed and it is from years ago. This is the path I chose, and was invited upon, and a great choice. But I am glad that the ‘powers that be’ have determined I have fulfilled my contribution.

    The thought of a worldwide change is great, but I feel it would be more successful without CWG attached to it to include Jews, Muslims, Christians, Athiests etc, and if there was a clear point to include stopping suffering. This would also gain the support of the SPCA, WSPA and other rights organisations, rather than a few new agers with their gods message. In my personal opinion Cat Stevens (Yusef or something now) would be a great person to have on board, he is pro-active, from the last peace movement, but a muslim. In order to be successful you should include, not exclude those with different opinions and Gods.

    To those pointing out potential problems – every problem has a solution (alchemy core), and foresight is helpful, hindsight is not. Obviously things like PEACE wristbands would be just plain dumb knowing Christians would label you Antichrists, and is easy potential problem elimination. As are most. And risking innocent peoples lives knowing how Muslims react to infidels, would be dangerous. I still feel it could work, just without the whole CWG god included. What is wrong with Neale Donald Walsch the person, who’s teacher happens to be the CWG god, but working as a person independantly from his god, leading a fight for what he believes in as an individual? You need the Universe and the biblical God on your side in order for it to succeed, they wield a lot of power.

    Still no from me.

  37. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Just stumbled on this …

    ” The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced”

    -Albert Einstein

  38. Stefania Avatar
    Stefania

    Buzz, I really like your summary! It’s definitely easier to understand and to consider for someone who has never read CWG or has no background on spirituality.

  39. Fernando Varela Avatar
    Fernando Varela

    I would greatly like to be part of the team! And will offer any service I can possible. The time for humanity to change can only happen if we change together!

  40. Trisha Avatar
    Trisha

    Okay, what can I do to help with the new Spiritual Revolution

  41. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Good Heavens ! Oh my, if not of to have been challenged before is it time for it now !

    I`m to bow the head in the awe for Buzz and Kristen….whether of they like it or not.
    btw: not often of to be speechless.

  42. Christina Salwitz Avatar
    Christina Salwitz

    Simply, THANK YOU.

  43. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    Hi all,

    It’s really funny how some people can take such a simple idea & make it so complicated. This is not difficult.

    If you believe in the ideas in Neale’s 1000 word guide for creating a new cultual story for humanity: IMPLEMENT THEM IN YOUR LIFE.

    The way to create change in the world at large is to first create change in your world by living these ideas & creating your own new cultural story.

    As it has been said before: Be the change you wish to see.

    If you wish to do more, do more. Talk to others that are receptive, begin to form small groups to promote these ideas. Take out an ad in the local paper if you believe it is the thing to do, it’s completly up to you how far you wish to go with this idea.

    If you don’t fully understand these ideas study them until you do. All the information & help you need is out there for you to do this.

    There is nothing to be afaid of in this idea. There is no danger here. No one is asking you to stand on a soap box in Baghdad & it’s not necessary to do so.

    Those who don’t wish to participate won’t, don’t worry about them, don’t waste your time trying to convince them, there are plenty who will understand & want to be a part of this wonderful movement. concentrate on the willing & don’t fret about the un-willing.

    It doesn’t matter how long it takes, what matters is that we begin. Yes there will be those who will only see the obstacles. So what? Let them live out concerns & the rest of us will demonstrate how the obstacles can be overcome.

    Living these ideas is a great way to create a better world & other ideas will be born that will work as well. So lets start, today, right now, by living them ourselves.

    A grass roots movement can become a grass fire & you know how fast they can move.

    Namaste Scott

  44. Felicia B. Cook Avatar
    Felicia B. Cook

    Ah there you go. Now we just need to make little booklets ( like the “Get Saved” ones) to put out everywhere.

  45. Felicia B. Cook Avatar
    Felicia B. Cook

    Oh by the way YES

  46. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    Scott, it is very complicated. Unless people know exactly what they are doing, they are playing with fire. For example spiritual debt manifests physically as financial debt.
    Any properly trained spiritual teacher will have been taught this, which is why there is not supposed to be any form of free spiritual education. Until CWG and the new age movement, both by the same god via reincarnation, it was as it is supposed to be. Strictly be invite only, to those trusted and deemed worthy, taken on as a protege or singled out by a master or working for their teacher, this is still the basis for many. The public masters like Yshua (Jesus), Buddha, Biblical God, Hindu Gods all knew this, as did Kabbalah Teachers, Einstein and the like. They were aware their students needed to trade, and they didn’t want to curse them with debt, so made any general public knowledge in the form of parables, examples, profound statements, proverbs etc. So information was based on examples of fundamentals available to those who seek, with the right tools, with the first stage obviously understanding language to understand what these sayings meant as a fundamental applying to much. Or why Biblical God demanded tithings.
    They know their students must trade, and other than general public information, all students were firstly screened for worthiness, righteousness and potential. In history, when this is not complied with you get spates of poverty, especially within the church, with people incorrectly thinking God wants poverty for them. Not true. Kabbalah etc teachers only give you a one word prompt for this reason, to encourage learning rather than teaching. This is why I use myself as an example for what I am trying to say (despite what B… thinks) – to avoid any implication of spiritual matters and so I do no harm. If you learn anything spiritual from anyone, without a direct trade, you will sink into financial debt. I would have to assume that Neales God has taught him this. This is why I have only briefly skimmed some CWG books as part a general education in different beliefs, and will never read any spiritual teachings. I will not curse myself, and many of your gods spiritual teachers here are probably unaware how they are cursing people. Or is that what he wants? Who knows, but I will never trust your god. Or has he cut down half the trees on this planet printing books about the law of Attraction to try to neutralise it?

    Any spiritual teacher or person who reaches a certain point will have to make a commitment to do no harm before they can progress, as it is to easy to accidently curse people, spiritual affairs can be akin to witchcraft if in the wrong hands, generally no -intentionally. Spiritual advancement or education requires a lot of discipline and juggling the laws that apply.

    And when negative entities pretend to want a part of spirituality, they are often using those with good intentions to indirectly cause their suffering, which is their energy source when they cannot self produce all the negative they need. Have no part in this, they are using you.

    If a worldwide campaign of spiritual free education takes place, I can guarantee you that you will sink this world into a state of debt, you may not care, but I do. There are innocent people, animals and children in this world too. And if you chose this path for yourselves, please respect my views for my country. I will still have no part in it, for the right reasons, although I still want change. You can listen, or you can ignore, we can each only access one persons freewill – and that is our own!

    There are so many factors in this, which is why my advice is to be very careful, and do not make it a CWG or spiritual campaign.

    We have a planetary history of failings, if you want to be successful i again say you need the universe and the Biblical God on side.

  47. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    Inger – you are so cute, your wording is often a pleasure to read, joy!.

  48. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    My goodness Kristen, you are very tied up in your truth.

    You may believe all the things you have written but I don’t & I don’t believe many others will either.

    In any case I stand by my previous post & everyone else will make their own choices about what to do.

    Namaste Scott

  49. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    I write now to express deep gratitude and positivity to Stefania, Inger, and Scott (both). You have raised my attitude for optimism these past days, and I am deeply thankful.

    What’s the matter now Kristen? You can’t even type my name anymore? Is it because I’m offering free advice and you think I’m putting people in debt? Are spiritual advisors who don’t charge evil, incarnations of the devil, deserving of being burnt at the stake, drawn and quartered, and finally crucified? If so, come here now and string me up. I’m not afraid of you.

    Scott,
    I agree completely, without reservation. EVERY … SINGLE … BLESSED … WORD!

  50. Rui Lopes Avatar
    Rui Lopes

    The first steps to a global change. You’re inspired as always Neil, and this will become a beacon on the way to happiness

  51. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    But don`t you see ?
    I can(believe in it or not)understand each of you. Scott, Buzz AND Kirsten. Please do not ask me of why, I`ll not even to TRY of to be opposing it because it is convictions and options(and by the own experiences in life that is).

    Once more back to the book “The open Door” and sitates:

    “My Children, Spirit is an entity that exists apart from time and space, for they are merely phenomena of manifestation.
    But when the inherent potentialities of Spirits express themselves and activity begins, then the element of time is brought into existence.
    It is only a facet of the manifestational stage of Spirit, and the consciousness of time as as well as space arises through the perception of motion and activity.

    Through all activity there runs a chain of causation, and this sequence of cause and effect is dependent on the principle of Time, for without Time there could be no sequence….So cause and effect are peculiar to manifestation and are inconceiveable in Spirit in which all is as yet potential.

    Now in thinking of the progress of Spirit, which we call Being, it is necessary to think of only individual lines of activity, one at a time. You cannot expect to trace the course of all Spirit in its progress as it is expressed in individual manifestions.

    When we view the process of Being in the light of future unfoldment and relate the ultimate to the process in the light of CAUSE under the domain of Time, we call it “evolution.” When the ultimate is looked upon as the EFFECT of the process of Being and Becoming, or better, the manifestational activity, we call this “involution”.

    They are identical in nature, differing only in their relation to the process. ”

    It continues with much more further of the wisdom on the page(s), but have no more “time” of writing just now…..The old traditions of Christmas have to be done in advance, and as not to be the borned rebellion(I`m a Libra), and for the joy of the grandchildern, must keep hanging on to the old tradition(originally a pagan tradition as you`ll know, bringing A TREE into the living room!?!).
    It is the winter wonderland outdoors by-the-way. I`m living on the countryside. And the landscape is kept in the WHITE, tracefree, polutionfree, and the cold fresh air of illusion.

    Smiling, Inger Lise.

  52. Ruchir Garg Avatar
    Ruchir Garg

    I am all in, go CRMS – Civil Rights Movement for the Soul.

  53. *lisa* Avatar
    *lisa*

    Scott- What a great post about each of us having to create our own cultural story. Sort of the point I was trying to get across about already living my life as an expression of my highest beliefs.

    Just a thought though, when you say there is no danger here, it makes me wonder if some people interpret Neale’s words that there is something to fear. As he said this in the BOTH of the last two stories about ingniting the movement:

    “Who will join Humanity’s Team? Place your answer in the Comment section below. But be careful. Because if your answer is yes, you’re going to be asked to take part in the biggest civil rights movement in the history of humanity.”

    Be careful – synonyms: cautious, wary, vigilant, watchful, alert, suspicious. Words that do imply that in a true commitment to the cause there is danger ahead.

  54. Tim Avatar
    Tim

    Yes! I’m ready, lets do this…

  55. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    Hello again everyone,

    Lisa, I think Neale was just making the point that if you say YES to this movement that you will be asked to do more than just saying YES so don’t take it too lightly. Of course, if you really want to know what he meant you’ll have to ask him.

    Certainly some of the posts here are full of fear but there will always be those that allow fear to be a significant influence in there lives. People like being frightened sometimes, it’s better than being bored for some I guess. Scary movies are a good example.

    As far as this movement is concerned you are completly in control of how you act in realtion to your commitment to it. If you did get up on a soap box in Bahgdad I suppose you might be in phyisical danger but are you going to do that? Really, what is there to be afraid of anyway ? That someone might not agree with you ? Is that something to fear ?

    If you believe as I do even death is nothing to fear. You are Eternal, you are Devine, you are Love, why should you be afraid ?

    At this stage of my development I’m not immune to fear but only physical pain & suffering worry me. If someone was going to inflict serious injury to my body I would be fearful in anticipation of the pain to come but I hope to one day be able to transend physical suffering as well. Others have done this so why not me ?

    If you live out of the principles of Reverence, Sincerity, Kindness & Support & apply what CwG teaches it is very unlikely you will experience pain & suffering yourself to any great degree no matter what circumstances you find yourself in.

    Namaste Scott

  56. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    Oh! I forgot to mention one incredible thing, an absolute first here on TGC.

    Buzz is in complete agreement without a single correction or contridiction.

    Somebody take a picture. “)

    Namaste Scott

  57. *lisa* Avatar
    *lisa*

    I agree with you and personally am not afraid. I am doing as you described in your first post on this thread and am content with the how I am manifesting these things in my life and with those I interact with daily without preaching to them.

    I was just pointing out that people in general are afraid of all kinds of judgements and reprecussions. By being warned to be careful in their decision, it might cause some to read more into it. Sort of leaving an unknown about what will be the expectations, and consequences, of their committment.

  58. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Buzz, sorry for the delayed response, but yes, I think your summary is an improvement. It’s certainly easier to read and it ties things together well. I still think it’s a bit too long, but it’s getting there.

    I always like the idea of an “elevator speech” wherein you have to give enough of your spiel to someone trapped in an elevator with you for a few short moments, to get them interested enough to want to hear more.

    At the core of that elevator speech is the message – ‘we are all ONE’ (or at least that’s the core for me). Something else needs to be wrapped around that to get someone to want to hear the rest of the pitch as you’ve summarized it above.

  59. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    Hi lisa

    Didn’t think you were fearful, good to know your not.

    We can’t control how people will interpret what we say here or any other time we communicate I suppose, except to be as clear as possible when doing so.
    Words are tricky things aren’t they ?

    We’ll never know all the consequences of our actions before hand, but hey, what fun would that be anyway ?

    As long as we live our truth as we know it, expand our truth as we evolve & do the best we can to make the world a better place, what more can we do?

    Glad your here Lisa & thanks for your support, for my efforts & everyone else here.

    P L & Y Scott

    (Peace Love & Yogurt)

  60. *lisa* Avatar
    *lisa*

    Words are tricky things when conversating like this. No nonverbals to read.

    Thank your for your support as well. I’ve come to look forward to reading people’s post, giving my two cents and getting noncritical feedback.

    P L & DC

    (Peace Love and Dark Chocolate)

  61. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    I really like this from Inger. It was very challenging to understand, being so far outside the box of conventional, and even CwG thinking, I needed time to comprehend:

    ” When we view the process of Being in the light of future unfoldment and relate the ultimate to the process in the light of CAUSE under the domain of Time, we call it “evolution.” When the ultimate is looked upon as the EFFECT of the process of Being and Becoming, or better, the manifestational activity, we call this “involution”. ”

    What this says to me is that God and I, and the same goes for everyone else in their relationship with God, are locked into a creative causality loop. This puts a special spin on the separateness of our oneness, whereby I create God, and God creates me, which are both illusions manifested from ultimate Being. If I accept that my world as I experience it is illusory, then it stands to reasons that my existence as a participant in my world is also an illusion, and then because of the loop my experience and awareness of God must also be an illusion of my creation.

    Let me say that again …

    God is an illusion and an Illusionist, and so am I.

    Scott,
    I have agreed with other posts in their entirety, and posted to that effect, several times since I started contributing here. I don’t like doing it often though, as I am relied on to be The Buzz. I also agree Neale was just expressing that saying yes will result in much more than just saying yes, but since we don’t know what to expect I’m still a No till further notice. However, *lisa* is correct that Neale ought to know, being a writer, to be more careful when using words like careful (paradox within a paradox). Such as it is with abundance training, optimism, and applying LoA in the saying “Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.”

    Thank you Pat,
    I believe the Core of our experience of this reality, and the concept that CwG struggles to convey, is tied into the last paragraph about our subjective perceptions and our creative journey to explore the unknown. All the paragraphs prior, and all spiritual teachings in history, revolve around this tenet of self-discovery, and is infact part of the definition of the word spiritual.

    I think you will find that, without interruption, this spiel can be fit into the time it takes to ride an elevator up a skyscraper, roughly 40 – 50 seconds non stop.

  62. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    Buzz – no I wouldn’t define you as giving spiritual advice. My problem with you is the sadism you expressed earlier. You clearly do not want to be a part of the human race, and enjoy our society and normality so quite frankly it pisses me off that entities like you are reincarnated here with your negativity and attitude. This is a planet of physical matter, people, animals and children. Not intellectual computers and whatever it is you want ‘our’ world to be.

    My concern is for the general population if you go freely global with spirituality. Books and courses are traded with money, a two way conversation is exactly that and is fine, it’s the non-traded aspects that concern me. And who will be loaning people money? And profiting from anxiety medication etc? The Fat Cats. I am wary that this may be whom your God is really supporting and whom his true people are, and he is using you as a catalyst to create what he really wants. Yes, he is an illusionist. Like Buzz though, he is nothing to do with earth and the life on it and there is a Law of No Intervention in Human Affairs. Your god by choice, your trust.

    I try not to form opinions, just use what I learn and understand. Opinions and beliefs are a waste of time when facts are available, unless they can change the facts. I don’t fear your god, or any end of times, or change. We will be fine. Forewarned is fore armed and I’m sitting on the fence.

    The ‘P’ word from the ‘B’ word so I’m outta here!

  63. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Did anyone else think I was referring to myself with this comment?

    ” There is still sexual abuse and sadistic behaviour, and a lot more, but participants treat it more like a role playing game than as though it were real. Many people enjoy observing these games as a form of entertainment.”

    Sexual games are far more common than most people are aware of, because it’s not talked about. CwG talks about this in detail. Why is sex a prohibited conversational topic?

    I have never played any of these games personally, but my research suggests that pretending a variety of scenarios can be highly stimulating. A few popular ones include rape, forced feminization of men, forced masculinization of women, public sex, and there is an entire category devoted to sexually expicit murder. Conversely, there are many hero scenarios involving superman, etc, coming to the rescue.

    Why tell you all this? Because in a perfect world, all the stuff we say we don’t want, what doesn’t work, is stored in the annuls of history, and reenacted just like how popular the reenactment of the American Revolution is today. Crime and punishment become a joke, hilarious in their stupidity and absurdity.

    But that’s a long way off. For now I’m left to contend with people jumping to conclusions that I’m being negative, abusive, sadistic, aggressive, violent, and all the other things people use to label each other. From a certain point of view you’re all correct, I am these things, and so are you (shock horror, how dare I), but I choose to ignore these aspects and see the goodness and sense of humour in people. Hence my comments to Kristen that she was being facetious.

    If you choose to be offended by me, don’t try to make it my fault. If you have a problem with me, you’re the one with a problem. Attitudes come from within, not a result of external circumstances like a little antagonism from me. I can assist you with this if you request. I have extensive experience tolerating sadists, who enjoy inflicting pain, and can provide guidance in a variety of strategies for altering internal psycho-emotional states. I cannot teach psychological self defence, but psychological recession, and positive reformation of traumatic memories, can be coached.

  64. *lisa* Avatar
    *lisa*

    I do find this dynamic between Buzz and Kristen interesting. I have not interpreted Buzz’z comments as negative, abusive or aggressive as Kristen has, but that shouldn’t cheapen her experience.

    Clearly we all have hot button issues that cause our fur to go up on the backs of our necks. The challenge is to acknowledge the fur has gone up and think about what we’re feeling and if it’s a legitimate threat. If not, reach back, smooth it down, take a breath and carry on.

    Half of the purpose here to really become a good listener. To allow people to express themselves and to give thoughtful, nonjudgemtal feedback. Which in turn allow us to express ourselves. Sort of like counseling. In that, the therapist listens to what we say and must stay detached from what they learn about us (the good, the bad and the ugly), in order to get us where we need to go. Imagine if your therapist told you how angry and pissed off they were about the fact that some days you feel suicidal and in order not to, you accept the f*cked up world, and your place in it, for what it is.

    In any case, if we all agreed here, it would make the conversations rather boring.

  65. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Agree a 100% with “lisa”. Buzz and Kristen(not Kirsten) will be astonishing accurate in their expressions. I AM highly fed up by all of “The Halleluja” peoples around, such as: If you does as am telling/-advicing you of to do….THEN of you to have a new wonderful and peaceful world, all of us expressing LOVE and Oneness….and not just in the religious interpretations of the same either, as it is almost in the same way more or less.

    I`ll believe it is much more to life than of to be following in “the footsteps” of a particular “movement”(settled by each others), or of anybody elses` paths.

    The Mass Movements always arises the inner resitance(perhaps a hidden past memory?) within me. Maybe the famous individualism?

  66. Dallas Avatar
    Dallas

    Hello Neale… we talked before a year or two ago when I was living on the street… you told me I was going through a trail by fire, and that gave me hope to keep going.

    Well, I really applied the wisdom found in your books. And it took some time, but eventually I landed a job as a radio dj (sound familiar? lol). Thank you for your words of encouragement.

    I have something I wanted you to look into. My people (Native American) in Canada are protesting the illegal removal of our Treaty Rights which protect the land and resources. Harper removed the protection of over 2 million Canadian lakes and rivers, sold oil sand land to China, and gave them the ability to sue anyone who tries to stop these environmentally damaging and disease causing developments (several Native American communities now suffer from cancers and many other health issues while the government continues to deny us any help).

    Chief Theresa Spence and one other are on a hunger strike to the death for an audience with the Prime Minister. The media is not reporting on these issues nor are they reporting the full issue. The Canadian government is attacking my people and bringing about the termination of our culture and spirit – on December 10th we gathered in an unprecedented movement across Canada and now our youth are mobilized to stop these illegal sanctions and protect future generations.

    I was hoping that you could possibly talk about this issue which affects every North American today… this is a historic event which has the potential to change the course of our nations forever. There is a lot of great info out there concerning these issues if you are interested in doing a piece on it. I can help as well if you’d like.

    Here’s a short video I made which represents what this movement is about… it’s a powerful piece that many of us have gotten behind:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40_82gI3KUk

  67. Jeff Miller Avatar
    Jeff Miller

    I will join Humanity’s team and do my part to spread the light of love throughout this world. I choose to express a higher vision of myself and be the change I hope to see in the world.

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