I will NOT be voting…

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17 responses to “I will NOT be voting…”

1. 

   November 2, 2012

   Michael L

   Thank you Lisa for giving so much of what you believe.

   “Will it make a difference when I throw my spiritual hat in the political arena and cast my vote?

   I believe YES.”……………………..(Because you live in a swing state.)

   “We are all in relationship with each other. We are not separate. What you think does matter. Your vote does count. And what you choose will make a difference.”

   But I’m afraid my vote does not count, unless you mean the spiritual energy of my choice. I unfortunately do not live in a swing state, and I’m of a different color then my state. I would say disenfranchised by the process.

   But I am very happy that you have found a candidate that meets those very high energy goals you have set. Peace.

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   November 3, 2012

   mewabe

   Even thought I am an activist regarding some issues (I have to pick my battles, there are so many), I am also always tempted to disassociate from the collective consciousness, to which I do not often relate. Am I separate? Not in essence, but I would say that my mind is elsewhere…

   I will vote, but without any belief or enthusiasm…I will not vote because I believe in Obama, not because I approve of his wars and military interventions, of his power grabbing and expansion of the police state (of his outdoing Bush on this and many other issues), not because I like his health care plan which basically was a gift to the insurance industry, I will vote because I think Romney and the Republicans are a lot worse, being supported and directed in their policies by the likes of Karl Rove and the Koch brothers, not to mention catering to the madness of the Christian fundamentalists and evangelists for votes.

   Nothing new here, it is all too often the lesser of two evils for President.

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3. 

   November 3, 2012

   sunseed

   great piece, lisa…that all sounds well & good, in fact great, but where is that candidate? it isn’t obama & surely not romney…I will vote too, third party…but also do not expect this severely corrupted process to serve us (@ least not many of us) very well @ this time…I work daily ‘toward’ systems that ‘will’ serve us, but in their current state, ours do not…this is an observable truth…much love to ALL

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4. 

   November 3, 2012

   Erin/IAm

   I did one of my little polls of the neighborhood kids that often contribute to my keeping in touch with the youthfulness of Life. I posed the questions: “Are you guys & gals keeping up with the politics & election process this year? How do you feel about this?

   The 18 yos…All of them…have no intention of voting. Really? I looked forward to this ability like getting my driver’s license! They, however, see no sense in any of it…believe that the ‘winner’ is already chosen…and they are not happy campers about the lies/side-stepping & bad-mouthing they are witnessing. Oh, yeah, they got pretty riled into the conversation!

   The youngers, who went down to 15 yos., were amazingly informed of the “Waz up?”…This was refreshing. However, they too, were unimpressed with the whole charade…unanimously expressing that they could not do anything about the BS at the moment, “But, just wait till it’s OUR turn!…We want Anarchy!” To which the olders chimed in with the same retort.

   I then asked if they were aware of the concept of Anarchy…All replied “Total Freedom…No government garbage!”, yet also included that most people would not be able to deal with that well…that folks would have to really be on their toes during such change-over…but after the crazies, real freedom to live as they choose would reign.

   Like I have said in previous blogs & such…The youth today (at least in small town USA) are more on-the-ball than Bigs want to See…and they are ready to play hard-ball if that need be, when ‘their time’ comes.

   I See verrry interesting years ahead, Dearests…Very interesting, indeed!

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5. 

   November 3, 2012

   Therese

   Michael L. said:

   “But I’m afraid my vote does not count, unless you mean the spiritual energy of my choice. ”

   Of course! Since nothing observed is unaffected by the observer, it is never our vote that really counts, it is the thought we hold when we vote that really matters.

   To that end, I believe that Lisa enumerated very will why she is voting, by telling us what, about the candidate/party she is voting FOR. We all know what we do not like about this political process, but is that where we wish to send our strongest energies? Of course we have to know what we don’t like, but that is not where we have to send our thoughts to the point that the Universe thinks we want more of it! Happily giving us exactly what we asked for!

   I voted for party that had the things I saw could be built upon. I did not vote against the party that I thought did not.

   Lisa, I love the way you articulate your thoughts, and have enjoyed your articles immensely.

   Therese

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6. 

   November 3, 2012

   Michael L

   Thank you mewabe,

   Even though voting for something you believe in is very fulfilling, what you are not for also has a place in my comfort zone.

   Your vote is a definition of who you are. And as Lisa and Therese says they voted for something they believed in, not what they were against.

   Each time we vote for anyone in any election, It can just takes one aspect of a candidate that would sway your vote. A smile you don’t like, a word they used you couldn’t stomach, or a simile you do adored. That’s why we have such slick looking candidates these days. And if your not you are…..judged 🙁

   But prettiness aside,,,,,
   When it comes to voting for one or the other, for me My first and foremost and highest on my list of FORE’S is who I can trust. Trust to do what he or she says they will do. That warms my heart when truth is being told. So I search that out in the candidate I vote for each and every time.

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7. 

   November 3, 2012

   Therese

   Michael…I did believe that the other candidate would do what he said, and that was not what I am for!

   How’s that for a play on words?!
   T.

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8. 

   November 3, 2012

   mewabe

   I am more of the mind of the 18 and 15 years old that Erin describes…I was when I was 15 (not believing in the current political processes), and have not change.

   I do not see any candidate on the horizon I can trust or “believe” in…Ralph Nader was my choice years ago, but I knew he did not have a chance, not because of negative thinking but simple realism.

   You cannot have a decent, fair social system when money is used as a means to exercise power over society. That’s a simple fact and there is no getting around it, it is as old as the world, and the only universally applied “golden rule”: those who have the gold (money) rule.

   Americans like to believe they have a “special” society that fosters freedom…yes, we have the “freedom” of voluntary slavery, and the “freedom” to somewhat choose the liars and cheats who rule over us (politicians).

   I cannot call this freedom. Freedom will come when money is no longer used for power, when love rules.

   It won’t happen in this election.

   We cannot change a negative situation by pretending it is not so, or hoping it will just evaporate if we just could focus on the positive, on what we want…the American revolution was not won through positive visualization, was it? Action AGAINST THE NEGATIVE had to be taken, the negative HAD TO BE RESISTED AND OVERCOME through direct action!

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9. 

   November 3, 2012

   Therese

   Mewabe said:

   “Americans like to believe they have a “special” society that fosters freedom…yes, we have the “freedom” of voluntary slavery, and the “freedom” to somewhat choose the liars and cheats who rule over us (politicians)”

   Actually, you have it completely correct. That is what we are free to do, and what we have, collectively, chosen up until now. In actuality, every culture has the freedom to choose whatever it wishes, and HAS chosen it. This is where, several things come into play. The axiom, “Not to choose, is still a choice”, and and not being willing to accept the results/consequences of your highest choice and going along with the status quo, is still exercising your freedom to choose.

   We have all chosen. I am choosing different things now. I hope it won’t result in my going to jail, but I have informed my family that some of the choices I now will make might have that consequence. That would be because some of my choices would very definitely not coincide with what big money and those bought by it might like. At the same time, Mewabe, understand that I understand that big money would not be “big money”, if I, and countless others, had not made the choice to buy into the rhetoric, and allowed and even encouraged it. It became okay for “them” to have the money, if the carrot was dangled that I MIGHT be able to become “them” one day. We brought all of the little shiny things into our lives and looked at them as promises of one day have “them-dom” bestowed upon us!

   Guess what? My energy, and all of those who are voting, as I stated, for the part of the politics that we see as “working”, will shift, if even incrementally, the consciousness of that politic. If enough of us consciously vote in that manner, it is not airy fairy or new age crap. This is, actually, science. Prayer, or “Where two or more are gathered”, has been scientifically proven to have observable results. It will move the process that we currently agree upon as “better” forward. Hopefully it would continue to evolve into something that would benefit this planet, socio-economically, politically, environmentally and spiritually.

   Of course, I believe that all of this is a spiritual evolution/revolution, but one does not have to look at it in that manner for it to be exactly the same thing.

   My “direct action” has brought me here, and other places. It has had me volunteering in things I never thought I would volunteer for, in my political system, neighborhood and beyond. I can’t tell you that my actions have directly changed anything politically, but I can tell you that just being willing to make my voice heard in my personal life and my community has yielded results I can see. Sometimes there was some chaos in the process, but those results have been overwhelmingly positive. I have seen what happens when I have “Be(en) the results (I) wish to see.”

   Mewabe, can you be more specific as to what you believe “direct action” would look like, both personally and as a country and/or globe to effect the change you wish to see?

   Therese

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10. 

    November 3, 2012

    Michael L

    Hi just a thought about what could be this “direct action”.

    What’s the plan for the 48% of the elector-it that is diametrically opposed your way of change?………………………..?????

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11. 

    November 3, 2012

    sunseed

    veeeeery juicy conversation…all of it; I like 😀

    I have spoken to many teens & young adults with the same ‘frame of mind’ (& heart & soul) that erin mentions above, about current systems…most of them are energized also, knowing they hold the future in their hands as the up-rising, up & coming leaders, & that they will make very different choices when ‘their time comes’ for the betterment of we all, & the time is now…their energies are already moving up toward this…they are this; I see it & feel it all around me locally (small town USA too)…I believe they & we who work on this consciously within ourselves, daily will help bring the rest of us back to our true selves & the remembrance of our divinity…I have no doubts about our achieving ‘better tomorrows’ collectively & personally…& it warms my heart to see the very young have the ‘knowing’ it seemed to take me decades to acquire (remember)…I am very proud of them, many times to the point of tears as I clearly understand what this indicates; our awakening has come/is come…we are waking from our self-imposed illusions of imprisonment to create consciously our better nows, & even better tomorrows…what a grand adventure, no?

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12. 

    November 3, 2012

    mewabe

    Exactly Michael, as long as there is no consensus, there won’t be much that can be done…and a minority will feel oppressed.

    But you would think that basic common sense would prevail, and that all people could agree on the necessity of honest government, and taking money out of politics as much as possible, by demanding publicly funded election exclusively and at all levels, equal free time on all medias during political campaigns, and by suppressing the influence of lobbyists.

    It does not happen because the politicians do not want this, so they distract the public with other issues, such as gay marriage and abortion, to keep the public forever divided. They are not stupid, they know what they are doing.

    There is no mass direct action possible at this point, not until the public stops watching the distracting political puppet show that is presented and looks behind and beyond.

    Therese, I agree with you…you nailed it! The public accepts the plays of “big money” at the top because of the carrot, because thinking that one day, if someone works really really hard or is really lucky, s/he might make it big too…and be like “them”, part of an elite…that’s where voluntary slavery comes into play.

    There are all kind of local, small direct actions people can take, actively and passively (supporting causes, and refusing to participate in certain things).

    But I fear that any significant attempt at change by a mass movement will be, as it always has, met with force and repression. When political lies no longer work, they use tear gas and rubber bullets, and jail.

    If people were actually united towards demanding an honest government with the simple changes I mentioned above (and how couldn’t they?), a massive national strike would do the job without violence or breaking any laws.

    But this would feel too “revolutionary” for most North Americans, who are in their present condition too afraid of their own government and too obedient towards authority to take such a daring step.

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13. 

    November 4, 2012

    mewabe

    I realize that my statement is incomplete…there are a lot of positive changes, grass root movements happening everywhere, thereby people are beginning to take their power back through actual action, and under the radar.

    It is indeed happening outside of the mainstream, and of course it is totally ignored by the mainstream media (that’s probably a good thing).

    Thank you Therese for sharing something about yourself, and your choices…Personally I never bought into the mainstream culture, you could say that I was born non-compliant, it runs in my family, and I always tried to live on the margin of society, as free as possible. I welcome the coming storm, the global crisis, I have been waiting for the global system to collapse since I was a teenager (even though I do not want people to get hurt).

    People will not change voluntarily…I mean average people. For one thing they are too busy and distracted with life to even have the time to think most of the time…everyone being forced into a situation that is like that of a hamster in a wheel…running faster and faster to remain at the exact same place.

    People fear change and many have been taught that “human nature” is flawed…even the non religious believes this, and puts up with the wrongs of society because not believing that people are capable of actually manifesting anything better…for example anyone who actually believes that peace and other good things are possible are called dreamers…as in the Lennon song Imagine, my personal anthem (:

    I am sure Neale has been accused of being too idealist and a “dreamer” by some people…it is difficult to shake some beliefs loose, when they have very deep roots.

    But I know it is not impossible. Sooner or later change will come, the easy way or the hard way.

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14. 

    November 4, 2012

    sunseed

    many many of us, & our numbers grow daily, are now prepared to give our freedoms, securities & lives for humanity; we have lost fear, for our divine purposes have brought us to this point, & it is amazingly freeing…
    this trend is not stoppable, so to me, it’s just a matter of time b4 we begin to see more tangible changes toward more positive lives for humanity (I see them now)…
    how long this will take is, of course, still in question (& if it will happen b4 we destroy ourselves)…& what will we create in order to bring this about, also still in question but I have a hunch we are on the verge of discovery/un-covery, & I for one am very excited about this…
    I understand those who have lost hope & feel so extremely down-trodden, & my heart hugs them until they have risen to the point of also being able to see that our salvation is in our hands, & that we are more than ‘up for the task…

    lest we forget, part of our fulfillment requires acceptance…acceptance, of the dark within us, hence outside of us too, manifested in our visible realities…acceptance does not mean apathetic approval, but that we can not release that which we do not hold in front of us…
    then love it…love it for the image it reflects to us about who we are collectively right now…
    the understanding of this comes first, & once the acceptance can be achieved (intermittantly @ first:), the knowledge will sink into your energetic patterning providing for you the ability to love all regardless of what we see w our external eyes…soon come…
    much love to ALL

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15. 

    November 4, 2012

    Therese W.

    Mewabe,

    I have two personal theme songs! One is, “I Can See Clearly Now” (I prefer the Johnny Nash version), and the other is “Standing Outside The Fire” by Garth Brooks. “Life is not tried, it is merely survived, if you’re standing outside the fire.” “There’s this love that is burning, deep in my soul, constantly yearning to get out of control, wanting to fly, higher and higher, I can’t abide standing outside the fire.”

    You said: “there are a lot of positive changes, grass root movements happening everywhere, thereby people are beginning to take their power back through actual action, and under the radar.”

    What I believe is happening now, through places like this web site, is that these grass root movements are finding a way to join together, in much the same way our founding fathers did. They, too, began by meeting in secret, and “under the radar” and their ideas became too powerful and too magnetic to keep to themselves any longer.

    Although I don’t believe that much of the shift is truly under the radar, but, rather, it is being ignored as unrealistic and, as you pointed out, too idealistic. How we ever, as a species, bought into the “less than” story I don’t know, but it is time to change that!

    Sunseed. Yes! “The Only Thing That Matters”, by Neale, says something that I have long found to be the only thing that heals…understanding. Forgoing forgiveness because we understand.

    This, in your terms, is accepting. If we understand that no one does what they believe to be wrong, we can accept them as simply not having a full enough picture to have done better. This process, of course, begins with ourselves. If we know this about ourselves, and love our flaws, not to make them go away, but to accept them so that we no longer have to dwell in them and act on them, then we can fully do that for others.

    So, thank you for the reminder, sunseed, that our road to change will be much more difficult if we don’t come from Love. Not blind love, but Love that sees what really is, and understands that it is all God, no matter that the illusion of it seems to tell us something else. You are right…it will sink in!

    T.

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16. 

    November 6, 2012

    Lloyd

    Wonderful post Lisa and as always great conversation from all. Voting is a personal choice, some want to see change NOW and others do just in smaller steps. Part of taking my power back years and years ago, was to stop listening to the talking heads and place most of my focus upon my own heartsong. Doing what I feel is good is more important than trying to do listen to what they think is good for me. In my experience my heartsong has never let me down, but they have often. Still I believe that we will make it, that goodness does overcome negativity, and that ALL of creation is moving forward into a positive future. All of us need to follow our own heartsong and learn to sing-a-long with harmonies that add to our song of Love. Namaste’
    Butch

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17. 

    November 6, 2012

    Michael L

    Ok I voted!!!!!!!

    Now here is my next thought.

    Lets find some way to share the wealth!!!!!!!!

    Lets make every state a swing state. To get some of those 2 billion dollars both candidates are spending.

    I heard two states have proportional vetoing, they split the votes that come in.Cool!!!

    It we don’t get every single person into the game we are never going to change anything. I dislike that winner take ALL process making your vote in a different color state useless and folks REALLY understand that.

    With a reason to vote the candidates can’t abuse the majorities tenets and then folks have to come together.
    Candidates would have to compromise and in that, and could enjoy both sides of the subject!!!!!!!

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