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Thanks for nothing, God

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Lisa McCormack

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As we once again find ourselves on the threshold of the Thanksgiving holiday, the season of gratitude, I want to thank God for everything in my life that is wrong, for all the things in my life that I have either lost or never received, and for all the outcomes that did not turn out right.

…I want to thank God for the relationships that are no longer a part of my reality in the way they once comfortably were, for the friendships and lovers who transitioned out of my life and moved in new directions, and for the encounters with my Brothers and Sisters on Planet Earth that were less than pleasant and far from an experience of Oneness.

…I want to thank God for the money that is not in my bank account.  I feel especially grateful for having to give up some of the things in my life I truly enjoyed because I could no longer afford to pay for them.

…I want to thank God for the moments in my life when I felt alone, as though nobody understood me or even cared, the moments where the silence in the room echoed loudly, the colors of life were drained of their vibrance, and time stood dreadfully still.

…I want to thank God for the professional promotions I did not receive, the career opportunities I was overlooked for, and the jobs I was matter-of-factly asked not to return to.

…I want to thank God for the aches and pains in my physical being, the nights where I am plagued with insomnia, the extra body weight I have had a difficult time shedding, and the way my mirror stares mockingly back at me some days.

…I want to thank God for the rattle in my car, the leaky faucet in my bathroom, the slowest line at the bank, the disproportionate number of red lights during my morning commute, last night’s quarrel with my spouse, the empty orange juice container, the paper cut, the stubbed toe, the neighbor who mows his yard at 6:00 a.m., and the one red shirt that mysteriously found its way into my washing machine along with a load of what is now formerly white clothes.

Yes, God, thank you.

The wonderful and lovely occurrences in life present us an obvious opportunity to experience and express gratitude.  Appreciation flows generously in moments of ease and abundance.  But how can we experience thankfulness in the midst of strife and turmoil?  How can we feel abundant when we feel as though we have nothing?  Is it possible that the events in life that reveal themselves to us under the guise of calamity hold within them the same opportunity for self-realization as those which seem to appear peacefully and effortlessly?

The people, places, and things which show up as “wrong” serve to illuminate that which is “right,” remembering that it is only within the human understanding of “wrong” or “right” that anything can be judged as so.  There is not a single occurrence which does not lead you to a higher experience of Who You Really Are, whether you are being invited to that remembrance through an experience of having or not having, losing or finding, propelling forward or retracting back, feeling frustrated or feeling overjoyed.

I will be expressing my deepest gratitude to God for the “nothings” in my life this Thanksgiving and thanking Her for the expanding awareness that continues to allow me to see the possibilities within what might otherwise appear to be “wrong.”

How about you?

(Lisa McCormack is the Managing Editor & Administrator of The Global Conversation.  She is also a member of the Spiritual Helper team atwww.ChangingChange.net, a website offering emotional and spiritual support. To connect with Lisa, please e-mail her at Lisa@TheGlobalConversation.com.)

 

 

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23 responses to “Thanks for nothing, God”

  1. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Gratitude is a beautiful thing, but without a rationalization of how to be grateful in the face of calamity, the subconscious mind doesn’t believe you could be grateful. Doubt is a powerful emotion, and gratitude only works when genuine, otherwise the words mean nothing.

    For this reason I’ve put out the following challenge: if you don’t know how to be grateful, I’ll help you through it. For details go to http://www.theglobalconversation.com/blog/?p=2604#comment-13684 and read the comments.

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  2. Therese Avatar
    Therese

    Buzz, I believe the opposite is true. Our natural state is to be in gratitude, the subconscious mind is confused at the doubt that this is true. There is no confusion, since even the smallest moment of gratitude is enough to let our body and mind know that this is the natural state, because it feels so good. One does not have to fake anything, because finding that one small thing is always possible. It is, very simply, up to those of us who know this, to be the tiny reminder to others. It is all about each of us remembering that it is up to each of us…one by one by one. If we were to remind one another more frequently, we wouldn’t be struggling so.

    I like your challenge, but I would also encourage all to reach out and share, daily, their own gratefulness, as examples to others. Give sincere compliments to all you see, to encourage them to look at themselves in the same manner you see them. We can’t create gratitude in others, but we can awaken it.

    Lisa, I completely understand what you are saying. There is a song that says, “Some of God’s greatest gifts, are unanswered prayers.” There are so many instances in my life of this being so, that I couldn’t possibly count! Because of this, I really do (most of the time!), almost immediately see some tiny bit of good even in the most awful of circumstances.

    T.

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  3. Marko Avatar
    Marko

    Thank you Lisa, you took the thoughts right out of my head 🙂 , this is an important lesson of remembering.

    A wise man once said:

    Bless every person and condition,
    and give thanks. Thus you affirm
    the perfection of God’s creation–
    and show your faith in it.

    P46 CwG book I

    Magically & everthankful & everblest,
    -Marko

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  4. iggy Avatar
    iggy

    Striking concept!

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  5. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Excellent arguments. I suspect this brings us all the way back to the difference between the commonly held perception and the dictionary definition of “natural.”

    Marko and I have already established in the other thread that events and circumstances are neutral in nature, and when we experience them we assign positive or negative opinions to it, through thoughts and feelings.

    So when I have a choice to be grateful, it takes effort. If the choice is based on something I consider nice, fun, beutiful, the effort seems so small, so insignificant, we don’t notice. If the circumstance is judged as mean spirited, unfortunate, negative, or bad, the effort required to appreciate it is high. This effort is of course an investment, with a big payoff in positivity at the end when it works, but if the attempt fails I feel even worse.

    The tools and tricks of positivity and optimism are many and varied. For example, I know that if I were to spend my life reminding people how to be grateful, it wouldn’t make any difference to the average global level of gratitude, the people in my life would begin to look for me as their way of being grateful as dependents, and I would experience the intense responsibility of being supportive, encouraging, sharing, and offering compliments.

    I want to clearly articulate this point. Being supportive, encouraging, sharing, and offering compliments are all amazingly wonderful and beautiful experiences for everyone involved: the giver, the receiver, and the observer. As a clear expression of love, gratitude is perhaps the most culturally accepted form of love a person can commit in full public.

    However, anything can become the object of addiction. Anything can become a way of losing a natural degree of sanity. When an obsession for receiving gratitude from others becomes an illness, their dependence becomes a source of emotional desperation, and desperate people do crazy things. They become a villain in the name of love, and they truly believe they are righteous. The giving and receiving of gratitude has become their world, because it’s conditional love.

    Even someone who gives without any expectation of returned gratitude from the target can become obsessed with having their gratitude acknowledged by others, like from the observer.

    So, then the question becomes: is absolute unconditional love a natural state? This doesn’t seem to be the message God is sending us. In nature, for example, survival becomes a balancing act of effort for potential reward. We don’t climb the tree to reach the fruit without expectation of something to eat.

    We want a good deal, or at least a fair trade. Part of this includes, for example, taking turns to make the effort of giving gratitude to each other so we can all be on the receiving end. Sending love empowers me and you, and we both feel better, but without giving back there is no conversation, no communal behaviour.

    Our best bet is to create communities where everyone both gives and receives, and the more they receive the more they give. The build up of positive energy of this community will attract more people, and as the community grows people may choose to alter their beliefs and behaviour, and when they do they are initiated. Love, like fear, is highly contagious. If people choose fear, they may continue as long as they wish.

    Gratitude is a wonderful thing, but if I’m not enough without it, ill never be enough with it. – paraphrased from Cool Runnings

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  6. Marko Avatar
    Marko

    Buzz, from my experience you can be grateful & appreciative regardless of where others are coming from.

    It’s something you can cultivate, create, sustain, prolong etc. It takes practice, desire & passion,– which is easier because it’s beneficial effects are so elevating.

    It’s also the easiest way that I know of to move into a better space.

    No doubt it can be challenging when you are in less than happy space or in great pain, yet keeping in gratitude even in these cases can lessen the pain & make a great unwelcome challenge more manageable.

    I consider it the magic bullet & predict this is how people will choose to live as we evolve even more. The result is there is a lot less complaining & a lot more solution action regarding problems be they individual, or world wide as a result.

    If we indeed create our own interior reality & influence the larger collective, wisdom dictates to me that it’s obviously in our best interest to move into Gratitude, Appreciation & Celebration the new trinity. To enlarge that energy vibration. It’s in our own self interest.

    There is no down side.

    According to FWG “Friendship with God” we can know things are going to work & play out in our favor & thus allow the unconscious to take that & run with it. Thus things can work out automatically & positively with little effort.

    This is all simple stuff & it’s amazing we don’t incorporate it more into our lives but there it is, a gift & blessing waiting to be unwrapped. A positive virus just begging to be spread around the world & infect everyone.

    What you appreciate, appreciates. Life responds to that as the LOA in action.

    The great thing of Gratitude & Appreciation is that most all people agree that it’s a good thing to cultivate & have. People are very receptive to it.

    It’s win win.

    Magically,
    -Marko

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  7. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    First thing that comes to mind (and don’t get me wrong: I have gotten a lot out of CWG.) is that it is human nature to find a reason for everything. We make up a reason for things going wrong and ‘it makes us grow’, ‘ If it doesn’t kill you it makes your stronger’ etc etc. When in reality, finding a reason keeps us sane, give us a reason for at least being here. But even your ‘thank you’s’ are made up..are nothing but ‘reason giving’ ….as Neil says: ‘we are making it all up’, even the thank you’s. . Not so positive a view I find today.

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  8. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Marko,
    Thanks for that illuminating and insightful comment. I agree with 99%of it, however you and I both know there is an exception to every rule.

    I’m not sure if you noticed this in my earlier post, which your post confirms:
    ” If the circumstance is judged as mean spirited, unfortunate, negative, or bad, the effort required to appreciate it is high. This effort is of course an investment, with a big payoff in positivity at the end when it works, …”. As you say, win win. With one exception.

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  9. Marko Avatar
    Marko

    Buzz I can agree that there are exceptions to most every rule.

    However, to see gratitude & appreciation within the framework of a conscious purposeful deliberate perspective, that there is no downside, is beneficial, life enhancing, life affirming & life giving. If you work & play at it that way there doesn’t ever have to be a down side.

    ” If the circumstance is judged as mean spirited, unfortunate, negative, or bad, the effort required to appreciate it is high. [not necessarily] This effort is of course an investment, with a big payoff in positivity at the end when it works, …”. As you say, win win. With one exception.” [and what exception is that? Are you referring to pain & unwelcome challenges I alluded to earlier?]

    Magically,
    -Marko

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  10. Laura Pringle Avatar
    Laura Pringle

    no good without bad, no dark without light. It’s all a blessing in the end, for all of it allows us to feel. Something. Thanks, Lisa, for your nice reminder! 🙂

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  11. Therese W. Avatar
    Therese W.

    If my example of Gratitude is genuine, and my expression of the beauty I see in others is sincere, there is no downside. What people do with my gift does not diminish its beauty. Even then, what I perceive as misusing it (as example, the addiction you speak of), is only that…my perception, and indicates that I had a preconceived notion of how my gift was to be used.

    My intent is to give my gift, and nothing more. That is, in my opinion, the only reason to give…for the joy of giving, not for the expectation of how it will be used.

    I understand all the rest of what you and Marko are discussing, Buzz, but I like to keep things as simple as possible. If something brings me happiness, that is my touchstone as to whether or not it was worth the doing. If I compliment someone on how nice they were, and they deflect by saying, “oh, it was nothing, someone else would have done more.”, that does not change how good I felt to give them the compliment. Some day they may really hear what I say, even if that day is not today. All of the descriptions of how people could get addicted etc, is, to me, just that person deflecting…and I don’t choose to move into those feelings.

    T.

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  12. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Marko,
    The rule is gratitude is good.
    The exception is when one becomes addicted to receiving gratitude from others.
    The exception to this exception is the unconditionally loving act of giving that Therese described. Receiving gratitude is then irrelevant.

    However, as my longer post details, and seems to have been ignored, unconditional gratitude is both rare and unnatural. It takes an enormous degree of emotional surrender and acceptance, like an unshakable faith in something pure, absolute, and as Therese says, simple.

    The exception to unconditional love being unnatural is a belief that nothing real can be harmed, as detailed in ACIM. CWG also refers to reality as an illusion, which is near impossible for us to fully comprehend, far less to accept and integrate into our experience due to conflicting observations. All that’s occurred here is replacing one kind of unnatural belief with an even bigger unnatural supposition that I’ve been lying to myself my entire life through my sensory perception.

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  13. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Buzz, peculiar enough but it is a program on the Discovery Channel by Morgan Freeman(the european discovery channel I`ll suppose)this afternoon titled: The Mystery of Life, subtitled: Is nothing really something?
    I`m going to watch it, but haven`t the faintest idea of what`s all about thou.

    At least to know of me to be a very curious person.

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  14. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    I’ve seen something with a similar title, but not by Mr Freeman. It was an examination of modern understandings of theoretical astrophysics. It clearly showed they are quite literally being forced to make stuff up that makes no sense in order to make sense of our scientific observations.

    We don’t even understand what electricity is, and now we have terms like dark matter, dark energy, and dark flow, all of which are beyond our ability to perceive with all our fancy equipment.

    The more we understand, the more we realize how little we actually understand. Trying to understand is very literally a lost cause, yet our curiosity can’t be turned off. We are destined to exist in a state of mass insanity forever.

    Sounds fun, eh?

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  15. Marko Avatar
    Marko

    Hi Buzz,

    “The exception is when one becomes addicted to receiving gratitude from others.” I would agree with that, yes that’s a fair and very valid point.

    That would be a way of abusing gratitude just like drinking too much water can kill you & that would be abusing something that sustains your life to the point of killing you. But I wouldn’t let the logic stop me from being grateful.

    “However, as my longer post details, and seems to have been ignored, unconditional gratitude is both rare and unnatural. It takes an enormous degree of emotional surrender and acceptance, like an unshakable faith in something pure, absolute, and as Therese says, simple.”

    Well Buzz, okay, I would further say, so what?

    Does that mean you don’t initialize it at all in your life?
    I mean what’s the point?

    Pure unconditional love or gratitude or unconditional anything can be considered rare. We don’t stop because of that.

    You end by saying:
    “The exception to unconditional love being unnatural is a belief that nothing real can be harmed, as detailed in ACIM. CWG also refers to reality as an illusion, which is near impossible for us to fully comprehend, far less to accept and integrate into our experience due to conflicting observations. All that’s occurred here is replacing one kind of unnatural belief with an even bigger unnatural supposition that I’ve been lying to myself my entire life through my sensory perception.

    The word unnatural in this case is just not a word that I would personally use or need to further my own blossoming awareness in working & playing at being a more advanced person in the making.

    “All that’s occurred here is replacing one kind of unnatural belief with an even bigger unnatural supposition that I’ve been lying to myself my entire life through my sensory perception.”

    Well I personally would not word it that way but if that’s what works & plays for you fine.

    I would not see it as lying to yourself all your entire life through sensory perception.
    I feel you are simply evolving as we all are. Thus, if we do create our own personal reality & to another further extent influence & help sustain the collective reality, we may as well do so in a way that works & plays best in ours & everyone’s favor. Create what works & plays to our best self interests.

    That’s the fun, the glory of having/using such tools from CwG & other like minded material.

    Magical high octane blessings,
    -Marko

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  16. Therese Avatar
    Therese

    “…unconditional gratitude is both rare and unnatural.”

    I would disagree with that statement. I believe all of the angst is the unnatural part.

    If all that Divinity desires for us is our happiness, then anything that does not pass the tummy test is the unnatural thing. The addiction, the confusion and all the rest are the unnatural feelings.

    I would suggest that we not throw out, or dismiss as impossible that which is natural, because that which is not speaks in a louder voice.

    T.

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  17. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Louder? Seriously?

    Imagine being in Somalia or Israel, in a major city. Now imagine you’re in the mosh pit at a rock concert during a war. Now imagine you’re in the front row, against the rail, unable to escape, and being crushed by the surging crowd all trying to get closer to the stage.

    The fear of war and death is loud, the volume of music is deafening, and the physical pain is incapacitatingly loud. Reality, and the physical illusion, are so powerfully loud, so impossibly overpowering, nothing else is conceivably important.

    Conversely, how does anyone listen to any voice in this mess? Further, how can one listen to a silent, inner voice during turmoil? The four keys to inner peace are solitude, silence, darkness and immobility.

    Reality is bright, loud, crowded and active. In fact we are taught that life forms must move to be classified as alive. We are taught to shine our light, lead, pave the way. We are taught cooperation is essential for survival. And we’re taught if we don’t speak our mind, we’ll never be heard. Life is just like a concert that never ends, we’re always going to be in pain, getting pushed around by the crowd into the rail, and quiet, private places are hard to find.

    I’m not saying we should stop being unconditionally loving or unconditionally grateful. I’m just pointing out how lonely an existence it is, and how challenging it is to reach and maintain this state, being so rare.

    As for what’s natural, CwG guideline 3 says “there’s nothing you have to do.” Need doesn’t exist. Etc, etc. This applies from a spiritual perspective only. The mind needs to think and process data. The body needs many things to continue existing, water, food, sleep, etc, and too much of anything is potentially fatal. These needs are natural, and in a reality of duality anything declared absolute is by definition unnatural, even love.

    “Only a sith deals in absolutes.” – Obi Wan Kenobi, Star Wars Ep 3

    Naturalness, like so many other things, is an opinion, and everyone is different. My using logic and definitions is a waste of time and effort on someone deeply emotional. What I don’tunderstand is why someone unable to communicate using agreed terms comes to a conversational community like this. Please explain?

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  18. Therese Avatar
    Therese

    “What I don’tunderstand is why someone unable to communicate using agreed terms comes to a conversational community like this. Please explain?”

    Huh? What terms do I have to agree to to come to this community? Especially since I never said anything was absolute…I said I believed.

    T.

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  19. Marko Avatar
    Marko

    “I’m not saying we should stop being unconditionally loving or unconditionally grateful. I’m just pointing out how lonely an existence it is, and how challenging it is to reach and maintain this state, being so rare.”

    I can understand Buzz, that from your current perspective it must or might seem like that to you, and that,this may very well be your current truth.

    That from this perspective life is very challenging, hard & it’s rare to be in this state of peace & harmony that you see as unconditional gratitude & love.

    I just don’t come from that viewpoint as I currently experience life. I understand that others may feel it’s this way, but it’s not the focus that will bring them or us out of it.

    However, even so, from that place can come a lot of healing & thus, less need to repeat unwelcome life experiences. That may in fact, be the remembrance lesson.

    From that space is a energy force that moves one out of it with greater clarity than before. That is, if that’s what one seeks & desires.

    People of deep peace & understanding are often not in such extreme life threatening life deafening loud experiences. If they are, most likely, they work & play to see the benefit of it, the blessing the gift & to decide with even more clarity that they will not choose to repeat this experience.

    Magically,
    -Marko

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  20. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    Sorry Therese,
    My comment was poorly worded. I can now see how that could have been misunderstood. I was not saying there are terms and conditions to contributing to this forum. In fact I believe your participation to be valuable.

    What I was saying is that when humans attach emotional experiences to words in the mind, hearing or seeing that word again brings the attached feeling back into their experience. For example, I would hazard a guess you remember a negative experience where the word “terms” was used. When we do this the agreed meaning, the definition, becomes distorted, often mutilated beyond recognition. I remember many scenes where I’d be looking at a dictionary definition in disbelief. “It can’t possibly mean that.”

    “Term” can mean a condition or requirement, but the word has many uses. It can be a measure of time, usually 3 months. It can also simply mean “word,” like number is a term, and so are the numbers.

    It is by this same measure that I have become confused by the use of a known concept like unconditional love. Many dictionaries do not include it because it is 2 words, but those that do don’t refer to it in the same way it has been defined here, simply “To love without any expectation of it being returned.”

    In addition to the definition discrepancy, the idea that an expression of love wouldn’t receive a response is absurd. When initiate a communicative action, there is always a response, including the choice (and the message it sends) to ignore. Humans are incapable of experiencing an event or circumstance objectively and impartially in a subjective reality, so we decide our opinion of that response is good or bad.

    If I decide you’re response to my loving initiation of conversation is good, like gratitude, that is reinforcing my behaviour with perceived rewards. If I call it bad, like attack, I become defensive to justify my position, reinforcing my behaviour. We can’t change each other, and it’s futile to try.

    So the expectation of having no expectations is an absolute concept, a paradox, and impossible within duality. What we can try for is low, minimal expectations, so we aren’t disappointed with poor results from others, and then we end up with lots of minimal results and minimum disappointments, or we can go for high expectations, high results and high disappointments. Finally, there’s all the hippocrites and distrusting people. Hippocrates expect high from others but low from self. “Do as I say, not as I do.” Distrusting people expect high from themself and low from others. “If you want something done right, do it yourself.”

    Our expectations are foundational to the implementation of LoA. The hard part is differentiating between having expectations, and projecting them on others tactfully, gently. Perhaps Marko would be kind enough to give us a lesson in gentleness ….

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  21. Therese Avatar
    Therese

    Well, this brings up the discussion of expectation vs. preference, doesn’t it? It is perfectly human to have either, but one works better than the other all around, especially in the LOA arena.

    I will not deny that it is my preference to have my gift of love/gratitude/whatever joyful thing I might be/do be accepted in a certain way. I will also not deny that I often have expectations that limit my experience off those things by limiting the way I perceive they have to be experienced by others. I do, however, know that one works better for me. Guess which one? Speaking only for myself, when I live in this space that good old LOA does what I like better, too.

    I find that I don’t have to go into the last detail of what isn’t working to know it isn’t working. Staying there for too long just increases the misery…let’s look at the crap, let’s smell the crap, let’s taste it, does it float, what’s the color…and it feels like guilt feels, anchoring me in place, always looking backward. Looking at it for too long sometimes feels like an excuse to not just give it up and move on into the joy that, still, for me, feels like the most natural thing to do. It certainly feels better than constantly trying to figure out exactly how and why something doesn’t work.

    Sometimes isn’t it enough to say enough is enough and just stop looking back and move forward? Give up the angst of having to understand every bit of something and just move on to what feels better?

    Therese

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  22. Buzz Avatar
    Buzz

    I must feverently disagree with this. As we spoke of already, it is far easier and faster to alter perceptions of events and circumstances than to alter physical events and circumstances. If something isn’t working, rethink it till it works for you. As a clever stockbroker will tell you, you can be profiting regardless of whether the market is stronger or weaker than yesterday. It can be going up or down, left or right, forward or backward. It doesn’t matter, even if it has stalled, with all trading frozen. Every direction is positive growth.

    In this context, preference is a mild degree of expectation. They are the same thing, at different intensities. When you express a preference there is a low level of expectation attached, with minimal commitment, minimal risk, minimal chance of reward, and minimal chance of disappointment. The highest probability is you will get something that could resemble what you asked for, from the perspective of another. In other words it may or may not carry the properties or usefulness you had requested.

    On the other hand, if you know exactly how something is not working for you, you can be exceedingly specific with your preferential expressions, and patch the problem before it snowballs into a systemwide crash.

    Now how can I relate this metaphor back into unconditional gratitude? A patchwork personality is better I think than a fresh new operating system. The bugs have been worked out, it’s stable, and runs smooth. Sure it doesn’t have the bells and whistles of the newest system, but what’s more important at the foundation level, the concrete slab: beauty or function?

    The idea of applying unconditional love and gratitude to existence as a foundational absolute truth is beautiful, but not stable. There is an obvious exception, a big crack in the slab. It will still hold up the most magnificent mansion, the OS will still run the best game in town flawlessly, but when it comes time to get the new game or add another floor, the foundation may not hold.

    Further, why do you need a mansion for 1 person? I choose to have no foundation, pitch my tent directly on the dirt, and move to the nicest spot I can find whenever I want. At the moment the only thing science is absolutely certain of is that everything everywhere is constantly changing. There are no constants, nothing is reliable, trust is an illusion. Even previously known constants, like time, and the speed of light, and the correlation of mass to gravity, have all been proven wrong.

    God is not just the light. God is also the darkness, and the act of bringing light into the darkness, and the act of bringing darkness into the light. God is a noun, a verb, an adjective, and a pronoun.

    Embrace the guilt, misery, anger, pain, fear, etc, and know it as part of who you are. Do not leave it behind, for you are leaving part of yourself behind in the process. Know yourself to be the contradictory dichotomy that is God, and you will never know peace again, and you will know this to be an improvement, a place better than perfection.

    There IS a place on Earth better than Heaven, and Christians call it Hell, where the illusion ceases to hold you captive. It is an impossible place, beyond comprehension, which cannot be described. It can be reached by passing through Heaven, as a soul. This is usually done via meditation, and if you see bright light, or a blue flame, you’re some of the way there. Access to the flame regularly is the method of travel, and you may visit anywhere in the multiverse, past or future, at the speed of thought by folding the space-time continuum. I found chaos inside a quantum singularity (black hole).

    Prepare to expand your imagination ….

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  23. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Hi Folks!
    Indeed the Space-Time continuum, The Black Holes and thank you very much friends.
    In fact, the TV Program yesterday afternoon titled:”Is Nothing really Something?” …The program of Morgan Freeman came to be quite informative about how the matter, the socalled visible and solid matter, actually IS the illusion….And Religion(anything called religion) vice versa Science will be the very same “Thing.” The one cannot be without the other.
    The Mind-Blowing Thread(us)will be the same of what`s named Expansion in Counsciousness.

    Buzz ? You are a formidable cool “Wind-Blower”….And heartily, as of to laugh often. Because it is the fresh new views, and supposingly the new horizons, of everything(from every angle)manifested….You`ll know: “Let`s take nothing for granted.”
    Of course it is The Master-Minds who have gone “the path/-the same Route” before us.
    “Prepare to expand your imagination”…..That`s true as a matter of fact folks(at least right now for me). But never-the-less: Mind is the Builder, and nobody can tell others of what to do…..(it is experienced).
    Advice yes, helpfullness yes, but in the end each of us have to make the own Self-Realization, or Conscious of the Self.
    The essence, the Universal Mind will be one and the same never-the-less of us doing.
    As Neale says….Nothing right nor wrong.
    (maybe am changing the mind later, who knows, because nothing will be settled in space-time)

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