DO AMERICANS DESERVE A
CONGRESS THAT ACTUALLY VOTES?

U.S. President Barack Obama issued a public dare to members of Congress in his State of the Union address that rang a bell with fair-minded people everywhere  — even those who oppose his points of view. And it certainly rang a bell with people who embrace the New Spirituality as articulated in books like Conversations with God.

CWG, of course, speaks of truthfulness and “transparency” in all areas of life, from politics to economics to our social interactions and our most personal choices, actions, and decisions. Speaking from his global podium (people around the world were watching his address, with millions of Americans paying particular interest), the President put forth a simple, eloquent plea regarding gun control legislation: just take a vote.

When citizens vote, their vote is private, of course. But when members of Congress vote on an issue, their vote is publicly recorded — and that’s where the problem lies. On issues such as this, many politicians hate the suggestion in Conversations with God to live a life of complete and total transparency. Yet the refusal of Republicans in the U.S. Congress to even vote on what many have called “common sense reform” through gun control legislation is a travesty in a country that prides itself on its democracy.

The first and most important and most highly touted aspect of its democracy, U.S. citizens will tell you, is the right and the ability to vote. Yet in Washington, D.C. — which is supposed to be the seat of America’s government — there is apparently a rush to run away from voting on any issue where doing so might cause politicians to lose votes among the electorate.

It seems clear that in the U.S. House of Representative, Speaker of the House John Boehner is in no way willing to put his fellow Republicans in the uncomfortable position of having to vote ‘No’ on common sense gun control proposals that public opinion polls show an overwhelming majority of the American people (including moderate Republicans) favor.

If such a majority of citizens favor the proposals, why will most Republicans in Congress not vote ‘Yes’? Simple. It is elections that keep politicians in office, not public opinion polls. And in elections, the National Rifle Association and other conservative political activist groups exert massive power within the Republican Party’s far right wing element (the Tea Party faction, etc.) — and it is the far right wing of the GOP which plays a huge role in deciding who wins GOP primary elections (which, of course, determines which candidate then runs in the general election against a Democratic opponent).

So in Congress, the situation as seen by GOP office holders is: “Heads you lose, tails you lose.” If you vote for reasonable gun control legislation — such as making high capacity ammunition magazines illegal, or requiring background checks for gun purchasers — you lose the support of the far right wing element in the U.S., and you lose the next primary election, taking you out of office. If, on the other hand, you vote against reasonable gun control legislation, you lose the support of the rest of the American people, and you lose the general election, also taking you out of office!

What to do, what to do…

The Republican-majority House of Representatives has figured that out. Do nothing. Simply use whatever legislative tactics are available to avoid taking a vote on gun control measures, no matter how reasonable or how well supported by the general public. (To be fair, a handful of right-leaning Democrats, elected in conservative home districts, also join in the game, called Whatever You Do, Don’t Be Transparent! Do NOT Vote Your Conscience!)

Now, President Obama has made this tactic much more difficult to get away with, without looking like what one critic called “gutless, lilly-livered politicians who claim to be the country’s leaders.” Mr. Obama said that if members of Congress feel they have to vote ‘No,’ then they should stand up and do so. But, he said, at least vote. The American people, he declared, deserve that.

As he gave his speech the President turned to the upper gallery, where parents of a slain Chicago teenager who performed at last month’s inauguration were seated, and said: “They deserve a vote!” Then he pointed to a former member of Congress, also seated in the gallery, who was shot by a crazed gunman while making a speech in Arizona. “Gabby Giffords deserves a vote!” he said, and the positive reaction in the chamber swelled.

“The families of Newtown deserve a vote!”, the President went on, and now the applause and cheers were deafening. His voice rising above the clamor, Mr. Obama would not stop. “The families of Aurora deserve a vote!” he hammered on. “The families of Oak Creek and Tucson and Blacksburg, and the countless other communities ripped open by gun violence –- they deserve a simple vote.”

Of course, the President is right. The obstructionists in Congress who won’t even let the matter come up for a vote are ignoring the first and most basic right of a democracy — and making a mockery of what they, themselves, say is what makes America great. And the Right To Vote does make America great…except when you have to do it with courage and visibility, apparently.

Comments

57 responses to “DO AMERICANS DESERVE A
CONGRESS THAT ACTUALLY VOTES?”

  1. Paula Avatar
    Paula

    I absolutely agree! JUST VOTE ALREADY!!!!

  2. Darien Avatar
    Darien

    I am much in favor of a system one of your books suggested – to let the people vote using the Internet – and basically get rid of Congress. This would also take power away from the President.
    And, if there were term limitations, perhaps Congress wouldn’t be so afraid to vote for their people, rather than their career.

    As for our President . . .
    Isn’t there a saying, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?’
    What about our children who, under President Obama’s direction, are being killed and maimed daily in the Middle East? And this, years after a promise to ‘bring them home.’

  3. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    Very well stated. It’s almost as though the two-party system is a conflict of interest in itself. Congressional members cannot honestly express and vote their conscience while at the same time worrying about re-election.

  4. Laura Pringle Avatar
    Laura Pringle

    Thanks for including such a timely and important aspect of our current events in this perspective. Although I am fairly ignorant of the mechanisms of politics, I believe that President Obama has what it takes in the integrity dept. to steer our country towards transparency and true democracy.

    His speech was emphatic and moving, inspiring and edgy. I loved how he drew attention to this issue and others in such a way that we would all be invited to delve into them and draw our own conclusions. Either way, right or wrong, he got everyone’s attention.

  5. sergio Avatar
    sergio

    Neale don’t go there, don’t get involved in this kind of absurd, if I were you I delete this post right away! looks bias and manipulative, both parties have their flaws! (NOTE FROM NEALE: I mentioned Democrats and their unwillness to vote, too, Sergio. Did you not see that?) every one needs to vote, but in this delicate matter, as to complete denial of a fundamental constitutional right, and based on lies and deception on both points of views, pro-gun or anti-gun everyone has their own truth and their beliefs, there’s no right or wrong, but this editorial of yours just shatter the idea of everything you have been preaching so far! Whatever happen to everyone holds its own truth?, what happen to Hitler is in heaven? so now the republicans are the bad guys and the democrats the good guys, everyone has their on agendas we all know that! you never mentioned what the democrats are doing, isn’t this bias?

    sad to see this article in here!

    (NOTE FROM NEALE: Wow, you did not read the article very carefully, Sergio, did you…because if you had, you could not have missed the sentence that said: To be fair, a handful of right-leaning Democrats, elected in conservative home districts, also join in the game, called Whatever You Do, Don’t Be Transparent! Do NOT Vote Your Conscience! So I did mention what the Democrats are doing. And the article, it turns out, is not “biased.”

    In addition, Sergio, my commentary does not say or even suggest that people should not be able to “hold their own truth”. It merely says that if we are to follow CWG’s recommendation for a totally transparent society that we should not “hold our own truth” secretly — especially if we are elected by the public, and calling ourselves “leaders”!

    I am sorry to see your comment here, Sergio, just as you are sorry to see mine, because you seem to be saying that I should never comment on how what is happening in our world aligns or does not align with the messages in Conversations with God. But that is the whole point of this internet newspaper, is it not???

    As I said on my Facebook page today, Sergio…I am growing weary of this “new age” point of view that says “if you are a person who wishes to ‘heal’ our world, do not — you may NOT — actually point OUT what needs to be healed.” You must talk about “healing” without mentioning the wound. Talk about making things better without a word about what’s not working. Because when you mention what’s not working, you are “divisive.”

    Okaaay….let’s all play Ostrich and put our heads in the sand.

    Or, maybe not. Let’s have the courage to tell it like it is.

    Like Jesus did in the Temple. “You hypocrites! You brood of vipers!” he is said in the Bible to have shouted as he drove the moneychangers out of the Temple with a whip made of knotted rope. What say you to THAT, my friend Sergio? Was Jesus “getting involved in this kind of absurd…”???

    Hmmmm….

  6. politics Avatar
    politics

    If it pleases the court?

    Who and what is on trial when it comes to justice of matters that pertain to the wisdom of JUSTICE?

    Isn’t Democracy essential to matters of Justice when it comes to defining it?

    Oh wait, what is Democracy?

    Exactly!

  7. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    it seems I am not as trusting as most in here that we will never need to defend ourselves from those who are out-of-control w weapons, including individuals & potentially our own government.
    I also believe that one day there will be a voluntary “laying down of arms”, & we will be grateful for that, but while there are still out-of-control people out there w dangerous weapons, we ought to have the opportunity to choose for ourselves whether or not to be armed to defend ourselves, & with what. surely we are not wrong to defend self; I realize no one believes that except for a tyrant. I do see some hypocrisy with someone who is protected by AR15s to say we are not also to be able to choose to protect ourselves w AR15s “should the need ever arise”.
    I also re-cognize as observable truth that the current president has not exactly been one who “walks his talk”, so being cautious about trusting this man’s word is not so out-of-line & unwarranted to me.
    I am all for background checks & so forth, but this could get to be a slippery slope, infringing upon basic human rights & executive over-reach in fast order.
    additionally for this man to state a belief for transparency while working in such secrecy on so many fronts is also a grave contradiction to me; not a walking of one’s talk…
    it’s a dis-grace…

    (Note from Neale: Wow, everyone wants to change the subject here. The subject is: Members of Congress should be willing to vote ‘aye’ or ‘nay’ on the gun control proposals. That was the only point. Anybody want to talk about that? Because that’s what the article was about!)

  8. Judy rice Avatar
    Judy rice

    So very well said, thank you…

  9. Michael L. Avatar
    Michael L.

    I think you protest too much, Neale.

    Just tell folks your truth and don’t hold it up to be THE truth.

    Your politics are always slanted, but that is because it is your truth.

    (Note from Neale: What is “slanted” about saying that I believe all members of Congress should be willing to vote on important matters that come before the country? I mentioned that both Republicans and Democrats are playing the don’t-vote game. So help me understand what is “slanted” about that? Am I “slanted” in favor of our elected “leaders” actually having the courage to let legislation come to the floor for a vote? Yup, guess I am. That’s sure “slanted” all right. Sure is.)

    And you’re right you don’t have to show both sides and pick an issue that both could agree upon.
    You can be as divisive as you want to. You do it wonderfully.

    (What, exactly, is “divisive” about the article above, Michael? Is it “divisive” to say that members of Congress should be willing to vote on issues that are important to the country? Tell me…I invite you to tell me…what is divisive about that?)

    Why because there is no absolute truth, we are making it all up.

    Sergio’s trouble is he thinks your truth could be his. But now he doesn’t.

  10. Michael L. Avatar
    Michael L.

    Neale when you write about any political topic you are labeling your opposition. (Neale comments: Well, if that is the case, then I guess any and all and every political commentary that any person dares to write or speak would be called “labeling your opposition,” and thus not allowed for any spiritual messenger or teacher. So much for half of what Jesus said about the politics of his time. Hmmmm….)

    You are holding them in their place and compromise will be difficult to reach. (It is impossible to compromise unless the current positions of the respective parties is articulated and understood. Saying “what’s so” should not be an impediment to compromise, but a step toward it.)

    Here is your labeling:

    rang a bell with fair-minded people everywhere — even those who oppose his points of view. “Your point of view not anyone else’s.”

    Congress to even vote on what many have called “common sense reform” “Your view.” (It is my view that many have called these proposals “common sense reform”? No, that is not my view. Many HAVE called these proposals “common sense.” That is fact, not opinion. That is simply factual reporting.)

    Yet the refusal of Republicans in the U.S. Congress to even vote on what many have called “common sense reform” through gun control legislation is a travesty in a country that prides itself on its democracy.” Your view again, wheres Harries bill?” (I agree. This is my view. I believe it is a travesty that our political leaders — both Republican and Democrat — would rather avoid a vote than take a vote. To so abuse the right to vote, which thousands of American soldiers died to protect, and to have our country’s “leaders” be the ones abusing it, IS a travesty. I’ll stand by that.)

    Republicans in the uncomfortable position of having to vote ‘No’ on common sense gun control proposals. Your view not…..

    And in elections, the National Rifle Association and other conservative political activist groups exert massive power within the Republican Party’s far right wing element (the Tea Party faction, etc.) — and it is the far right wing of the “Labels and more labels by association.” (Everybody in the political arena is aware that the Tea Party is the far right wing element of the GOP — and the Tea Party itself proudly proclaims it. So I guess saying what everyone else says and knows is not allowed, is that it? Wow. Interesting guidelines. Don’t tell the Emperor he is wearing no clothes. Got it. I’ve got it. I understand now. Speak no inconvenient truth. Got it.)

    If such a majority of citizens favor the proposals, “your hopes.” (No, factual reporting. A majority of Americans do favor these proposals. Every public opinion survey shows that.)

    If, on the other hand, you vote against “reasonable” gun control legislation, you lose the support of the rest of the American people, and you lose the general election, also taking you out of office!
    ” Your slanted view again.”

    To be fair, a handful of right-leaning Democrats,

    “One sentence, and not even a thought of what the senate majority leader has said, he would do.

    I will not hold you in your hardened space. Just know that you are not fair and balanced in your reporting on politics.

    There will be votes says the senate, how much is done is still to be seen, folks love their freedom to bare arms. And they are from both parties.

    National register of legal Gun owners just makes them targets when the “Freedom of information act” lets their information out, like the newspaper in Westchester county, NY did recently. Put folks at risk.

    I would suggest that you sooth your words in peace, please.

    (There is nothing unpeaceful about raising one’s voice in protest. In the past, violent protest has been denounced (and rightly so). We should seek peaceful protest, we were told. Gandhi taught that. Martin Luther King Jr. taught now. But now, apparently even peaceful protest — an opinion article that states a particular point of view — is not acceptable…and now I must “soothe my words with peace.” Well, if “peace” means “never say anything that espouses an opinion or states a personal point of view,” then count me out. Even Jesus did not choose to meet that standard. Quite to the contrary. He spoke his point of view loudly and clearly. And so shall I. Hugs and love…Neale.)

  11. Jim Clark Avatar
    Jim Clark

    EVERYONE SHOULD BE THANKING GOD FOR NEALE DONALD WALSCH, NOT PICKING FIGHTS WITH HIM. ARE U SERIOUS, FINALLY SOME ONE HAS GOT IT RIGHT & IS SPREADING THE GOOD NEWS. JOIN HIM IN THIS MOST IMPORTANT CAUSE. JEZZZZZ — What we as a human race have accomplished over hundreds of years is outstanding. All the bricks have been laid, all the airports are in place, the highways, the beautiful life style of most people in civilized countries !!! COME ON PEOPLE, how long is it going to take to put the — THE ICING ON THE CAKE — Most of the really time consuming hard work has been done. DUH — LETS DO THIS in a friendly, respectful way because that’s where we are heading — LET THE GOD IN ME HONOR THE GOD IN YOU — MINE IS NOT THE ONLY WAY, IT’S JUST ANOTHER WAY, ESPECIALLY IF IT — WORKS & LOVE WORKS !!!!!!

  12. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    neale, u DID mention gun control in ur piece, dear 😀
    and transparency & I mentioned both of those…to believe we are picking fights is somewhat naive…why feeling so hurt because of dis-agreement :D? baaahahahaaa…lighten up…one can have these views w.out malice…

  13. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    bravo michael l; very well said…I love neale too, but this does not mean I will always agree w him, dear jim…& while u were writing about how we all should BE respectful, u were partaking in the kind of language that could b construed as lacking respect…ppl r funny, but I love them…I ADORE having discussions w folks who have differing perspectives as i grows mine that way. not necessrily to agreement, but my understanding of “what’s out there” for views, & I will share mine, but this does NOT mean I do not respect the views of others…
    love to ALL

  14. Neale Donald Walsch Avatar
    Neale Donald Walsch

    To me it is amazing that a simple story saying that political leaders ought to be willing to cast their vote “for or against” something would somehow be cast as slanted politics or picking fights or anything but a clearly stated view of something that is desperately wrong in our world. “Wrong” not in the sense of morally wrong; “wrong” in a sense of going in the “wrong” direction — not getting us where we say we wish to go.

    I can’t imagine how anyone could argue with the premise of the article I wrote, above. The premise is simply that a vote should be allowed, and not avoided, on the various legislative proposals surrounding gun safety and gun control. How could anyone argue with that?, I wonder.

    Golly, we have a long way to go as a society if we can’t even agree on a simple statement that politicians should stop trying to avoid voting on controversial legislation, but should simply vote their conscience and let the chips fall where they may. I would have thought that would be a fairly agreeable, non-divisive position. Guess not.

    Hmmm…

  15. Lynette Avatar
    Lynette

    Sigh…yes Neale, apparently we have a very long way to go….

  16. Lloyd Avatar
    Lloyd

    I agree with Neale, politicians are more interested in getting re-elected than doing, acting, and representing their heart felt knowing of what is best for “We the People”. Nothing I have seen written makes me change my opinion that our representatives are not acting responsibily in performing their duty to our country. They do not pay attention to what their constituents need or want, but do pay attention to what special interest money desires in order to get themselves funds to run their elections. This is a sad state of affairs, and perhaps it is time for another revolution in order to give the voice of the people back the power they have lost.

    We do not need guns to defend ourselves from our own government, and we do not need guns to protect ourselves from the majority of citizens we exist around. So why is there so much resistence amoung the fearful ones of both parties to attempting to restrict guns and violence in our society?

    Can we have a conversations even if our political parties can’t? How many of us loving souls know that guns are not the answer to learning to live together? Take a vote, who wants everyone to strap on a gun in order for all of us to feel safe? Not me, I vote no on guns for everyone. Namaste’
    Butch

  17. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    okaaaay, so I guess these responses were supposed to “show up” in a specific way…hmmmm…

    some of us do not believe as our truth that the methods of government we now use are actually “useful”, INCLUDING voting or not…nor do we trust those in so-called power positions; there seems plenty of observable evidence to show validity to this claim…I do believe this is relevant to the current topic, & I still hold this as my authentic truth…we choose NOT to bear arms in this household…we do not believe it is necessary for US, but do not wish to take that decision from others to make our views theirs…

  18. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    many loving, compassionate & caring people own guns, & hurt NO ONE with them. just saying, guys…& one does surely not need to be living in fear to wish to protect self, family & community should the need ever arise, but quite the opposire…we live in love with these people & communities, very very much love!!! it is clear that in our current state as humanity, there are still people to protect ourselves from on occasion…
    & having conversations, my dear friends, does not mean always BEing in agreement…

  19. Laura Pringle Avatar
    Laura Pringle

    Butch (a Vietnam vet, correct?) says:

    “We do not need guns to defend ourselves from our own government, and we do not need guns to protect ourselves from the majority of citizens we exist around. So why is there so much resistence amoung the fearful ones of both parties to attempting to restrict guns and violence in our society?”

    I agree, but this is such a touchy point of contention with so many people. Yikes, here we go…;) I see lots of comments in posts about protecting ourselves from our own gov’t. This topic alone could fill a football stadium with the commentary. But this isn’t what Neale was getting at in his piece. (or was it?)

    Butch:
    ” How many of us loving souls know that guns are not the answer to learning to live together?”
    It sure feels that way to me, it feels like the very act of insisting on weapons rights is back-stepping, a negative affirmation of trouble to come.

    “Take a vote, who wants everyone to strap on a gun in order for all of us to feel safe? Not me, I vote no on guns for everyone.”

    I second that motion!

  20. chris Avatar
    chris

    Speaking as a English guy, I have never understood the US obsession with owning a tool that does very little except kill. We get on fine in the uk without guns. To me it’s a bit like “Oh all the criminals have nukes, so we too have the right to possess WMDS to protect ourselves”. Again, they are designed to kill!
    Why on earth is owning a deadly weapon so important to people? It’s 2013, not 1885.

  21. sunseed Avatar
    sunseed

    I completely understand people’s responses to weapons of any kind, not just guns…
    to those who do not wish to own guns, please…do not buy them…we do not & have no plans to have them in my home…I know many w guns tho, & I do not fear them in the slightest!!! if we are working toward “no fear”, what do folks have to fear from law-abiding gun owners, especially if most of the time, we have no need to defend from criminals?
    but those who do want them, leave em alone, let them BE, w no need to control…”god” never said we must “force” others to comply with our views, or to take away the god-given right to defend self etc (check even neale’s books about self defense)…in fact, natural law says anything but…anything gained by “force”, even as simple threat from the reward-punishment paradigm, is a band-aid/temporary fix, if anything…I also add that gun owners I know personally, & many others I do not know, are not against reasonable background checks, & do not care to own weapons of war (if we want to stop the creation of wmds, let’s look to those who support, @ risk to the good of the masses, the industry that makes them, & supports all sides of all wars)…if one checks the govt’s descriptions of what is a weapon of war, or weapon useful for self defense, one will find the description changes to suit the govt ‘policy-making machine’; that is what it seems to me it has become…
    the roots of the issues that create the conditions that cause folks to believe violence is the answer to anything really is what needs to be addressed by the populations @ large…right, no heads in the sand, let’s get honest w ourselves…it brings up MUCH larger issues than ‘gun control’…
    pres obama has truly said little to address these deeper issues, within “state of the union” addresses, or otherwise…& has done v little in the past that he HAS said he’d do, so why are we expecting him to be more useful now? maybe he will be, sure, but I am not holding my breath…
    I believe it is time we, the people, step back into power, stop blindly accepting what so-called authority figures are saying just because they are saying it, & relieve “ourselves” of the cancerous aspects of our societies…these conversations & actions ARE happening within many forum, on many sites, in many back yards, in many countries…
    WE ARE what we have been looking for, as the saying goes; WE ARE saving ourselves, WE ARE rising above without those “representatives” who nor longer actually truly support us, for the most part…we do not need them to effect changes in this world!!!
    THAT is my main point(s) here…
    I see beautiful signs of positive changes every day in new ways!!!
    with love & respect…

  22. Michael L. Avatar
    Michael L.

    Sunseed,

    Thank you, for sharing your truth.

    It warmed my heart!!

    What ever energy is frailing around out “there”, we inside our hearts are NOT.

    We the people, yes!!!!

  23. politics Avatar
    politics

    If I may indulge the Judge?

    A simple question:

    Is it the gun or the person that commits the crime? An age old question to which I have never heard a good answer. If you answer both of them, then tell me why.

    Perhaps I have an answer, but then the next question I ask of you is, would you listen?

    I am at the mercy of the courts.

  24. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Lets face it…Since the beginning of time…The Earth have become “The Self-Defence-Station” in the Cosmic Order of things. And from time-to-time some enlightened souls occuring in of to try telling us otherwise.
    Cheers and Cheerio.

  25. Alan Avatar
    Alan

    The issue here is rather simple. As Obama stated, let’s take a vote and see where our representatives stand on the issue of gun control at this time.

  26. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    “I am growing weary of this “new age” point of view that says “if you are a person who wishes to ‘heal’ our world, do not — you may NOT — actually point OUT what needs to be healed.” You must talk about “healing” without mentioning the wound. Talk about making things better without a word about what’s not working. Because when you mention what’s not working, you are “divisive.”

    VERY VERY WELL STATED NEALE, I AGREE 100%!!!!

    I feel exactly the same way…we can’t mention any of what is not working with the world, because it may appear “negative”, or because it may turn some people off.

    This attitude comes from the New Age “Disneyland” (sweet and fluffy and light) version of spirituality…made by and for child-men and child-women who cannot deal with the sometime harsh, cruel, intolerable world realities.

    WHAT MANY NEW AGE PEOPLE WANT IS A TOTALLY NEUTERED SPIRITUALITY, a form of spirituality that will be a nice addition to their lives but that will not get them to ask uncomfortable questions, look at uncomfortable facts or make uncomfortable changes.

    Comfort seems to be the ultimate goal, even at the price of denial.

  27. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    I thought your article was great Neale.

    I find it a little offensive that some people think they “own” you in a sense, and perhaps this is the price of success, of having a “following”: some individuals appear to have created a mental image of who they think you are, or should be, how you should behave, what you are allowed to express or not according to them.

    They have put you in a little mental box and watch your every step, and if you appear to wander off in a direction that they have decided is not or should not be yours, you get reprimanded. Wow…isn’t this kind of an arrogant attitude on their part?

  28. Jim Clark Avatar
    Jim Clark

    Isn’t the real purpose of CWG & http://www.theglobalconversation.com to get to the bottom of why someone would want to do others harm. It all comes back to — ONE HUGH THOUGHT, IF IT’S OK FOR GOD TO JUDGE & PUNISH, THEN IT MOST CERTAINLY MUST BE OK FOR ME TO JUDGE & PUNISH– Pow, Bang, your dead. There that serves you right, is the attitude this has created. Gun control is yet just another CHANCE for CWG to make it’s point to spread the TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE REALLY ARE. Argue or don’t argue is a minor point right now. Now is the time to –PUSH HARDER — to solve the REAL PROBLEM. Again it’s all in the CWG books, SO LETS USE THESE WONDERFULL THOUGHTS to make a difference, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE !!! In otherwords — LETS TEACH PEACE — by sharing what we have learned from the CWG series of books by Neal Donald Walsch and stop wasting time arguing weather vote or no vote or gun control is important. Of course it’s important, so let’s get to the REAL ISSUES here and use our time wisely, to promote what has turned each one of us into a — GOD LOVING PERSON, INSTEAD OF A GOD FEARING PERSON. These poor kids and many of us also have had our FOUNDATION kicked out from under us. — BRINGING GOD BACK INTO THE PICTURE, AS CWG EXPLAINS IT, IS THE ANSWER TO MOST OF THESE PROBLEMS !!!! YES, THE GOD IN ME HONORS THE GOD IN YOU !!!! THANK YOU NEAL FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE TO ENCOURAGE SUCH A WONDERFULL LIFE STYLE. IT’S TRULY REMARKABLE WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR !!!!! AND THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HELPING OTHERS DISCOVER THIS REMARKABLE WAY OF LIFE !!!

  29. Erin/IAm Avatar
    Erin/IAm

    Agreed…Congress should openly vote…as should We, the People. We have the technology & should use it, No? Transparency Rocks…Honesty Rolls…Together they make some heavenly music.

    I kinda liked the idea that the ‘suit’ of Congress should be as NASCAR drivers…showing the logos of their corporate sponsors…Tho, personally, I don’t see lobbying & corporate support making for great people governing…but it’s still a fun idea for the moment. 🙂

    Play on, Neale! <3

  30. doug Avatar
    doug

    There is nothing unpeaceful about raising one’s voice in protest. In the past, violent protest has been denounced (and rightly so). We should seek peaceful protest, we were told. Gandhi taught that. Martin Luther King Jr. taught now. But now, apparently even peaceful protest — an opinion article that states a particular point of view — is not acceptable…and now I must “soothe my words with peace.” Well, if “peace” means “never say anything that espouses an opinion or states a personal point of view,” then count me out. Even Jesus did not choose to meet that standard. Quite to the contrary. He spoke his point of view loudly and clearly. And so shall I. Hugs and love…Neale.)

    Hi Neale,
    I agree entirely with these words; very well said!

    I can not pretend to fully understand American politics, but it seems to me that if we want to live in a democracy, then important issues (and God knows, gun control is one of the most important issues this world faces, in my opinion) MUST be voted on. Otherwise, there is no point in having a political system at all….may as well just get the guns and knives out and solve things that way, if nobody is going to vote on anything.

    Personally, I would love to se all weapons destroyed and recycled into something more useful; many would not agree, but, just like Neale, I will not stand by and say nothing on the subject for fear of offending others.

    Thank you Neale, for writing this article. You are absolutely right to raise this subject and speak out about voting on the issue of gun control. You are right to point out that Jesus was also outspoken on important issues. Keep up ther great work!

    Doug, Norfolk, England.

  31. Jon the mechanic Avatar
    Jon the mechanic

    There is a verse in the bible in the book of proverbs I think, that says “Every man seems right in his own eyes”. I would like to put my two cents worth in. I really don’t think to much about voting for or against the gun control as I think guns is not the problem. The part of the country that I live in, most ever body owns a gun some many guns. But to kill someone is out of the question, unless it was a case of life or death. There is another verse in the bible that says “what so ever a man sows that will he also reap”. We here in our country have been sowing so much violence on tv movies vidio games music etc, for years and we ask WHY is there so much violence? Would taking the guns away from everybody would that solve the problem? The fist man that I know about was kill by his brother Cain and I am sure there were no guns. I don’t have an answer to all the problems. I can’t believe that congress is that naive to believe that guns is the problem. I do believe that back ground checks is good. If people are unstable they should not have a gun. Those kind of people should not be watching all the violence that is put on tv,movies or vidio games. Well I have put my two cents in and that is what seems right in my eyes.

    Jon.

  32. Jaz Avatar
    Jaz

    Hi everyone.. 🙂

    I do not want to waste too much of my time on this discussion. So, here is my quick take on all of this…
    Mr. Obama is a liar and a hypocrite. And should be laughed at by most people of this world. Because of what hes doing elsewhere in the world. And the last time I checked ‘Control’ was not freedom.
    I DO NOT support gun control. However, I do support pharmaceutical drug control. Which is the main cause behind ALL mass shootings..
    I DO NOT support false flag operations by your government to create scenarios as the one we here are debating about.
    I DO NOT support “One World Government” as suggested in CwG 2.
    Rest of my opinion can be found on this clip below.. have a good day.
    Peace.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc

  33. Michael L. Avatar
    Michael L.

    Thanks Jaz,

    History of disarming populations, this video was illuminating.

  34. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    The idea that a civilian population could resist governmental tyranny with guns was applicable in the 18th, 19th, early 20th century, perhaps.

    But allow me to laugh at those highly deluded individuals who imagine that they could resist such tyranny with their puny weapons…perhaps they have watched Rambo or Red Dawn too many times.

    Today the government out-guns, out-powers, out-surveil any one of us, at any moment. In case of civil war, there is absolutely no doubt that the US military would obey orders to shoot other Americans (except perhaps for a few exceptions, quickly dealt with, look at the case of Waco a few years ago), because obeying is what they are trained to do. They would rationalize their acts with the idea that they are killing domestic “terrorists”, or dangerous radicals. And the US military machine is the most technologically advanced and powerful in the world.

    So standing on the second amendment, which was written at a time when the government fought with muskets, is like standing on thin glass…you may be okay as long as you don’t try to prove your point, but the minute you make a move, you will fall through.

    Not to mention that violence rarely solves social problems, it only replaces one form of tyranny with another, as we can see in Iraq, which is on the brink of a civil war, and which will only be united again when another tyrant rises up to power, probably with the blessing and support of the CIA, as it was with Saddam Hussein who was America’s pal (no matter how many of his own people he tortured and murdered) until he decided to disobey his masters, the US government.

  35. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    I meant to write “stand on thin ice”, not thin glass….

  36. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Here comes a root-assumption: ANY form of Violence must be eliminated.
    To start with oneself and family members, the neighbourhoods, the neighbouring countries etc.etc.etc.
    Hmmm, Oooops, have almost forgot of us to be perfectly safe, and to live in a Safe Universe….We are made Perfect….Unlimited posibilities.

    Or else received a positive quote from the old U.S. friend(a former army fellow)this morning: And we are sharing it all the way in MANY years by now:
    “To get full value of joy you must have somebody to divide it with.”
    —Mark Twain(B.Samuel Longhorne Clemens)1835-1910. American Author and Humorist.

  37. Jaz Avatar
    Jaz

    Mewabe- So should we join them? I mean, if we can’t beat them, we might as well join them. Right?
    What hope can there be for a country, and for it’s people that makes a liar and hypocrite it’s president. And then lack courage to point out what he really doing.
    I am wondering if I ever heard Mr. Walsch on controlling the guns of US army, when they go around slaughtering innocent Iraqis, Afghans , Pakistanis, Yemenis, and the rest of the world, specifically the poor countries. I wounder if you be this keep to point out why your congressmen did or did not vote?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDbTaWpwoc

  38. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Jaz, I agree about the hypocrisy. Thou shall not kill or murder UNLESS the government tells you to do so, then you get a medal.

    This is not new. This topic was discussed by Roman philosophers at the time of the Roman Empire…when an individual kills a person, it’s called murder. When a government kills hundreds of thousands or millions, it’s called victory and people wave the flag.

    The world hasn’t changed…only technology has, not human behavior.

    My point is that those who stand on the second amendment do not want to change the world…they like it the way it is, they are all for war and imperialism, and the use of force to get your way.

    They are deluded thinking that their little guns will protect their liberty. There is no liberty left anywhere in the world, apart perhaps among some undiscovered tribes in the Amazon, in the middle of Death Valley or of the Australian bush, in other words where civilization has not quite reached yet.

    Try to do what you want of feel like doing and see how long it is before you find yourself inadvertently breaking one or more of the thousands of laws in the criminal code, many of which are not necessarily enforced except occasionally by some ambitious bureaucrat or district attorney.

    Freedom? What a joke! Those people who are buying guns because they think the government might take their rights and freedoms away have no concept of freedom, anymore than most people have, who are conditioned from infancy to obey authority and to voluntary submit to a system that treats them as if they were children, all their lives.

    For example, the TSA at airports: no free individual would submit to such a degrading process, a process that strips you of whatever dignity and sense of personal integrity you may have salvaged.

    People are however accustomed to be treated like cattle by the system, and see no wrong in such treatment. They seek to be treated this way, they want it, it makes them feel safe. This submissive mindset is not one of a free person, but that of the slave.

    I am trying to imagine a man like Crazy Horse going through the TSA, and being molested by a TSA agent…the guy would loose his scalp in a hurry.

    There is something to be said about being a “savage”, meaning acting on one’s true and valid impulses as they come up, instead of being repressed as most civilized people are, who in the end are so suppressed and repressed that they no longer know who they are.

    As you can probably tell, I have no sympathy whatsoever for civilization.

  39. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Back to your topic Jaz, that was an interesting video, but, honestly, would you trust ANY politician?

    I would not, ever. A trustworthy politician would probably be assassinated, because refusing to serve the military-industrial-banking complex.

    It is not particular individuals who are at fault (not keeping their campaign promises etc) but the system itself.

    The system is corrupt from top to bottom and can only engender more corruption, with the complicity of a corrupt mainstream media, no matter who is in charge in the government.

    Sorry to bring you the bad news…I thought it was old news, but it hasn’t reached some people yet.

  40. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    The political debate, which is totally related to the debate about gun control, between those who favor what they call freedom and those who seek what they call safety is what delineates the difference between so-called conservatives and progressives.

    The conservatives say they want freedom. The progressives say they want safety, which they view as another form of freedom (from harm, hunger, etc).

    Neither however understand that with freedom comes personal responsibility. Conservatives want industries deregulated for example, yet stand by and do nothing when an industry chooses to IRRESPONSIBLY dump highly toxic industrial by-products in a lake or river to cut costs.

    Not only do they do nothing, but they pass laws to lower environmental standards, so the highly toxic by-products can be declared legal and harmless.

    Organized crime could not operate more efficiently, at such a morally corrupt level.

    Progressive tend to seek safety at the cost of freedom, yet insist on having their personal “rights” respected, without the responsibility, without assuming responsibility for the consequences of their actions.

    But this is what happens when a society treats people like children: they become as such, no normal children but spoiled brats, and require ever more laws, regulations and law enforcement to be protected from themselves and each other, to be protected from the consequences of an incredible degree of personal irresponsibility.

    And what makes such irresponsibility possible? Massive denial…such as actions have no consequences.

  41. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Jaz, just in case you do not understand or believe my point about freedom being practically non existent today (except for the “freedom” to voluntary comply),
    watch this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBiJB8YuDBQ

    Gun control makes sense to me, as far as background checks and limiting the amount of firepower one can have.

    But government now controls everything we do, at every level.
    For example, if I wanted to instal window boxes at my house, I would have to apply for a permit!

    That’s what I call insanity.

    Soon the government will regulate the number of times you are allowed to sneeze in a week.

  42. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    It is impossible of not to agree with you Mewabe.

    For a long time now have been rather suspicious about The Mind Control anybody seems of to inhibit…whatever it is or might be.

    But within all of these things is it one truth, and it is of us to be(or to become) of what the focus and the intention ought to be at large….. in of to overcome the old patterns.

    Please do not know if somebody of you in of to have studied Carl Jung(you don`t need to of course)?
    The individual is the micro-cosmos in the macro-cosmos, seen as a universe within us.
    The Life is The Mirror without a doubt(to me that is).

    And all of these things will be a matter of “the politics” in the world.
    Wonders HOW and WHEN the fabrication of the need of “armies” for a defense arised(I have enjoyed of to be in the army once, the comradeship and all). It must be eons of time ago(I do not believe in any particular “time” anymore)….because of to have experienced “the time slips” myself.

  43. Lloyd Avatar
    Lloyd

    In agreement mewabe, our system has been broken for some time now, and yet we keep the illusion alive that we are free. We wave the flag on the 4th, salute vets and praise the cops, firefighters, and doctors, as servants of our great countrys’ ideals of caring for each other. Yet we allow banks, military/industrial complex, oil corps, industries to escape their duties and responsibilities with offshore accounts, investments etc. to not support their fair share of the business of operations of our infrastructure, health care, and educational processes. As individuals we must speak up and make our voice heard in demanding that Everyone, including corporations, pay their share to support our country. It does not matter if you are repugnant or democrazy, listen to your own heart, and sing your song of loving justice, and doing what is responsibile for the best interest of us ALL.

    As the voice grows, the ignorant will begin to hear the truth they do not wish to know, “We the People” are the power that allows this country to exist. Namaste’
    Butch

  44. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Please, do you really believe it is only in the U.S. of Democrazy to be practized? It is the very same in Scandinavia, and supposingly in the rest of Europe as well. It is absolutely no difference. Some of the countries still have kept “the Royalties,” but in Norway the Royalties have absolutely nothing to do with the government and the politics. They will be neutrals(nice folks by the way, no “upstairs or downstairs” with them, they have “come down” from the throne long ago). The only “roles” of theirs will be of to be front-figures in the norwegian diplomacy, and highly appreciated among the population. They are “the steady” point in a shifting agenda of the politics and the governments.
    Sometimes wonders if the americans really believes in of to be “the only Ones” in the play of to be among the freedom fighters.”

    One for all, and all for One(The Three Musketeers).

    P.S. AND the discussion of the females “to fight” for the same “equality” as the males will be history. Nowadays(in many years by now) it is the other way around here with us if you asks me. The females ruling the most.
    (not among the muslims thou)

  45. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Thanks Llyod, I agree, we the people are the ONLY real and valid power, we just need to wake up and stop being followers, stop looking for leaders to save us from ourselves!

    I Agree about the mirror Inger, that the outside world reflects the state of our consciousness…of the collective unconscious etc.

    But I also suspect that there are several “families of consciousness” in operation in this world…that we are not all alike.

    Artists for example are very different from scientists…they have a very different worldview. Anarchists are obviously very different from those who choose a military career and from bureaucrats. Those who have what could be called a “tribal” consciousness (group awareness) are very different from those who are entirely immersed in individualism.

    Modern psychology has done a lot of damage by defining what should be the “norm” and attempting to make everyone fit this norm, with psychotropic medications if deemed necessary.

    Those who question society are therefore viewed as malcontents who have problems adapting or coping because of personal issues, for example.

    But the psychopaths in charge in government, in the banking-corporate world and in the military are not being questioned about their mental health, or lack thereof, are they?

    To be ruthlessly ambitious and succeed by running other people or businesses into the ground is considered healthy, and a highly desirable behavior to be emulated, validated by the idea of social Darwinism.

    This corrupt worldview encourages those who do have sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies to rise to the top of society, with the blessing and admiration of the rest of us.

    Then we wonder why our world is upside down and nothing works, except for the very few, the elite.

    The ability to put two and two together has been lost somewhere along the line of social conditioning, it seems. Clarity is no longer part of the equation, with the outcome that the hapless masses are more confused than ever.

    Within the context of the “families of consciousness”, we may be complementing each other, overall, even through conflicts. But there are conflicts.

    We may be one, as the day and the night are one, inseparable, yet we are different.

    In my case, I know that my own consciousness, my worldview does not fit within the status quo, it never has and never will. I am a minority within a minority within a minority.

    I have a tribal consciousness…I was born with that…I never felt comfortable with the extreme individualism, absurd sense of separation and alienation that rule the western world (western civilization).

    At the same time, I believe in absolute individual freedom…the total freedom to spontaneously act in harmony and balance, in cooperation (rather than competition) with others and with the environment.

    The freedom to follow what some call the Tao, natural, spontaneously harmonious relationships with all of life.

    Anything short of that total freedom within the context of harmonious relationships is short of enlightenment.

    Anything short of total freedom reveals an unevolved consciousness.

  46. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    True, true and true ! And it is refreshing of listening to you Mewabe. Thanks indeed.
    As “The Life is The Mirror” have come to the conclusion of it must be “another part of me” who(or whom)still not of to have the knowledge about.
    F.inst. the husband of mine of to have thought in “knowning” through nearly 50 years of marriage by now: If somewbody(or me)in to try in of to mention, or even to try of to present the GOD-materials in front of him(anything of the sorts); or, what often of to have done, occassionally of to put one of the books at the tables or the benches around…. the reaction of him is still to be the same….he is NOT interrested. But he is tolerant and accepting of others to believe in “God”, but do not try in to convince him about it, and certainly not to participate within any “new-age-system.” Thou, of him to be a very much “history-oriented” personality. The interrest of the ancient history of the world do we have in common. Everything about the history concerning the Mankind at large.

    But it is very intriguing with the age-old knowledge about the Guardian Angels and the Spirit-Guides thou(it is told to be manyfold of them among us and within many differently “planes” of existence). And have come to realize of us to live ” in a world of symbolism.”

  47. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Thank you Inger…yes we all complement each other, and some people can manifest parts of our own psyche we are not yet aware of, or have suppressed.

    Much of the human worlds is indeed highly vested with symbolism…symbolism is the language of the human psyche.

    As an example, the shapes of the ammunition (phallic bullets and phallic missiles) meant to penetrate enemy territory or the body of an enemy combatant are so obviously symbolic it should be an embarrassment to all who are involved in the military!

    I am not sure about nature, I think nature directly reflects simple divine realities, that’s why I like it so much!

    The only thing that distinguishes us from the rest of the creation is that we have the unique ability to believe we are not part of it. That’s our downfall and the source of our global insanity.

  48. Inger Lise Avatar
    Inger Lise

    Mewabe ? Peculiar enough received a quote today from one of the dear U.S.friends(army veterans) of mine today which says:” A Happy life is one which is in accordance with its nature.” —Marcus Annaneous Seneca (60 BC – 37 AD) Roman Rhetorician and writer).
    I do belive in of us to have the knowledge “built in” within each of us one way or the other.
    And here comes somthing of NEVER have thought much about for sure, the names of ours!
    And do you know what ? Two of the grandchildren visited us today, and the one girl, at the age of 13 years old, told of to be interrested in interpreting the names of us to have been given by birth and by the batism. She, the granddaughters name is Julie, looking up the names on the Internet Dictionary.
    First about the name of the husband(her grandfather), and his name is Øyvin(or Oyvin, because of you do not have the letter “Ø” in the alphabet): We do have the same alphabet as yours, but the three last letters of Æ, Ø, and Å, of you do not have in yours. But in the scottish language the letter “Ø” will be the same as “ey” in the scottish accent/dialect.
    The scottish accent and dialect have much in common with the norwegian language.
    And the name of “Øyvin” have the meaning of “a happy warrior.” I became rather amased because it is fitting the husband very well. He IS “a happy warrior of the personality.” Never, ever of to have thought about it at all !
    And when Julie (the grandchild), looking up the name of Inger Lise, because it is TWO names put together…the same as Mary Ann or Marianne… of me almost fell backwards in the chair ! And Julie looking at me with a big smile on the face and laughing. Julie knows very well of me always have “searched for God” one way or the other.
    Ing, or Inger(also the same as the name of Ingrid),is a norse MALE God(and the feminine side of the same God is Frøya or Froya in the norse mythology). And the name of “Lise,” signify/- meant the same as “God is Complete/Perfect.”
    So, the name of “Lisa” have the same interpretation. And then have thought of “our” ´Lisa`s in the group of ours.
    Please, what native indian name will be yours by birth ? The natives always gave the children significant names which indicated the connection with the nature.
    Nothing happens by chance if you asks me ! And everything have a significance.
    P.S.
    Do not know if this is all about politics thou(laughing).

  49. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Inger, the name that I use here is one that was acquired psychically, not by birth. It is actually not my own name, but one of a very close brother of mine, in another life, a good Indian life before the white man.

    Amazingly, it almost matches the name of the son of a Native American friend of mine, Maweba. The name Mewabe came years before I met my Native American friend.
    I am not Native American by blood, not in this lifetime anyway…but I am native to the earth, in every way and in my soul.

    I prefer not to give my real name, but its origin is Hebrew and its meaning is “Healing of the Lord”. Hard to live up to such a name!

  50. Victor Avatar
    Victor

    I agree 100% with Neale and Mewabe…

    The top problem in awareness, consciousness and spirituality today is DENIAL.

    And in the field of the so called New Spirituality, what Neale calls the New-Age by-pass…

    Nicely pictured by them:

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  51. Victor Avatar
    Victor

    This is the quote I wanted to put in the previous post, I very much agree:

    (Neale): “I am growing weary of this “new age” point of view that says “if you are a person who wishes to ‘heal’ our world, do not — you may NOT — actually point OUT what needs to be healed.” You must talk about “healing” without mentioning the wound. Talk about making things better without a word about what’s not working. Because when you mention what’s not working, you are “divisive.”

    (Mewabe): VERY VERY WELL STATED NEALE, I AGREE 100%!!!!

    I feel exactly the same way…we can’t mention any of what is not working with the world, because it may appear “negative”, or because it may turn some people off.

    This attitude comes from the New Age “Disneyland” (sweet and fluffy and light) version of spirituality…made by and for child-men and child-women who cannot deal with the sometime harsh, cruel, intolerable world realities.

    WHAT MANY NEW AGE PEOPLE WANT IS A TOTALLY NEUTERED SPIRITUALITY, a form of spirituality that will be a nice addition to their lives but that will not get them to ask uncomfortable questions, look at uncomfortable facts or make uncomfortable changes.

    Comfort seems to be the ultimate goal, even at the price of denial. “

  52. Victor Avatar
    Victor

    I think that about this topic, and many others as well, a very important conversation has to be made about this theme:

    To support absolut freedom of choice, thinking and action to everybody, means to allow, to permit, EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to everybody? I mean, socially speaking…

    Yes, I have freedom to buy a car, to drive anywhere I want, any time I want, that`s freedom… But can I drive at 140 mph in the city streets, and hit, injure or kill any person in the way, and destroy anything that gets in my way, because I am `free`? “This is my car and I can do anything I want, I have the right to do it, this is my freedom”? Society hast to submit to that? Nobody can`t say or do a thing about that, nobody can`t stop that behaviour because that would be, “limiting my freedom”…?

    This is a very old subject, but it seems that in the field of the “New Age by-pass”, we have to enter it again and again…

  53. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Thanks Victor…I think that as long as people are not sufficiently evolved, they will need rules, like children. It’s unavoidable.

    Yet the opposite is true…as long as people are conditioned to live under coercion, they will behave irresponsibly, like children, they will not mature (look at Russia being suddenly free, and the rampant crime that ensued…look at the riots whenever there is a breakdown in an American city).

    The degree of a people’s evolution could be assessed by looking at the number of laws, rules and regulations to which they must submit. A peaceful and orderly society with very few rules and no coercion means evolution. It means maturity, a sense of individual responsibility and a strong respect for the interests of the collective.

    We are a far cry from that.

    Tens of thousands of rules, regulations and laws means that the people are less evolved than an ant or a termite, they are still self-centered and unwilling to act responsibly, such as taking others and society into consideration.

    It may be of interest to know that among most Native Americans, they were social standards, social “norms”, a strong sense of ethic, but no coercion whatsoever. The so-called “chiefs” were merely advisers, councilors, or temporary leaders according to temporary needs and circumstances. Indians had no lawyers, judges, police or jails, no presidents, prime ministers, kings, bosses or popes, yet their societies were very orderly.

    THERE WAS NO AUTHORITY BECAUSE THERE WAS RESPECT, not respect from fear as in civilization, RESPECT FROM UNDERSTANDING.

    That’s evolution.

    In Native American culture, training began in childhood by never scolding or punishing a child for doing wrong. Instead the child was rewarded and honored for doing right. Adults were also publicly honored for doing right.

    Leaders were not people who had ruthlessly clawed their way to the top as in our societies…they were individuals whose great courage, wisdom, generosity and selflessness were recognized and honored by the people as leadership qualities.

    Native American leaders were often among the poorest, because they placed the welfare of their people ahead of their own, and gave what they had to the needy among them. Jesus would have felt at home.

    Theirs was a more intelligent culture, and if Euro-Americans had not come to destroy it all in the name of greed, they would have gone far on their own evolutionary path.

    I think that civilization as it stands today is nothing (and has never been anything) more than technologically advanced barbarism. It encourages selfishness and immaturity, even sociopathy.

    It was this way in the Roman Empire, in the Middle Ages, it is this way today.

    People confuse freedom with “doing whatever the hell I feel like doing”, as long as they can get away with it. This attitude is rampant, from the top of society to the bottom.

    This is why all Hollywood movies that portray a breakdown in “law and order” portray ordinary people becoming raving lunatics and psychopathic killers, “looking out for number one” with a gun in their hands.

    This is why many Americans, who are well aware of the sociopathic nature of their own survivalist mindset, are piling up ammunition and weapons while expecting such a breakdown of society.

    The more rules are created, the more people will associate freedom with breaking the rules and acting like selfish brats, rather than acting responsibly, voluntarily.

    And this greatly pleases the people at the top, who can thus justify taking more and more of our freedoms away, because we are increasingly proving ourselves to be incapable of acting intelligently and responsibly.

  54. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    About freedom, laws, and paranoia (all of it relating to the proliferation of guns in America):

    Einstein:

    “capitalism creates a society in which people are made to work very , very hard to Deprive each other….Man can only find meaning in service to society…in the joy of it….and from this comes his or her sense of security at belonging ……….capitalism instead creates a society in which being a member of society becomes the source of Insecurity, rather than a source of joy and security”.

    Sigmund Freud:

    “I came to america meeting a generation of Neurotic Paranoids……I left America seeing a generation of Violent Lunatics………America is Gigantic, yes; but an Accident and a Mistake, nonetheless…a Gigantic Mistake”.

    Ouch! But is there some truth to these thoughts? What would they say today, just imagine!

  55. Víctor Avatar
    Víctor

    Wow Mewabe…! Awesome…!

    Just wait for the next entry saying your’re divisive and biased, he,he… 😉

  56. mewabe Avatar
    mewabe

    Thanks Victor…no wonder Einstein was monitored by the FBI (particularly for his anti-war views).

    As far as Freud, I would add that the neurotic paranoids, the violent lunatics are the ones in charge and those who actively support them!

  57. Richard Robinson Avatar
    Richard Robinson

    We have so many different issues on the table . The government can’t solve any of this with the illusion of separation so firmly in place. A new way of thinking, knowing we are Unique Individuals, yet We Are All One would change everything rapidly. It’s about who we Choose to be, When you see the entire world and all of creation as Your Family it’s much easier to make the higher choice. Any item can be a tool for growth or destruction the Choice is ours. The change is about changing ourselves and our thought patterns, not changing the item or it’s legal status. (some drugs have been illegal for many years, but they’re still readily available,and still being abused.) Who shall We Choose to be…That is the question. Awareness-Honesty-Responsibility. All paths lead to the Source…no path is wasted, or wrong….but some are more direct. My Thanks and Love to All of You for joining me on this Grand Journey.

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